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Hi I have FCP Studio 2 and was wondouring if anyone has successfully converted NTSC HDV footage to PAL HDV using compressor or any of the other new tools in FCP Studio 2

My doco has both footage shot in US (NTSC) and Australia (PAL).
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Hi Andrew - welcome to the Forums emoticon

I haven't personally tried this yet.

I am going to invite FOOTAGEHEAD into this discussion -he's well and truely boned up on these sorts of things.

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Hi inyourface
I will post again shortly with a more definitive workflow,
but the short answer is just dropping the NTSC HDV into a PAL HDV timeline will work for cutting purposes. Or the other way round. Changing your render sequence setting to ProRes will give you much better title and graphics renders inside your cut. Please let me know what format HDV you are using in PAL and NTSC (1080i or 720p) and I will try to give you a setting in the wonderful and wacky Compressor 3 that looks OK.
For other folks reading this thread I will expand on the wacky comment soon. The very next thing to ask is what machine you'll be editing on - because a recent MacPro with at least 4Gb of RAM will make your edit process a lot faster.

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I have 1080i NTSC HDV shot on the Sony Z1P. I tried putting it onto a HDV PAL timeline with a little HDV PAL footage at the beginning. No problem editing etc. I then rendered and ran it to tape and the resulting PAL HDV footage jumps - not acceptable for broadcast.

I have now turned my attention to Compressor to hopefully fix my problem.

I have both a G5 with 2GB of RAM and a Mac Pro with 4 GB of RAM

thanks Andy
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Thanks for jumping on this Footagehead - I clicked you applause button emoticon

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Hi inyourface
after much research the two best software conversions for
1080i60 to and from 1080i50 are the Graeme Nattress standards conversion 2.5 package and Shake 4.1's filein node frame rate conversion.
Here is the link for the Nattress Standards converter software:
http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm
Compressor 3 does not currently handle the field conversion very well. When it does I will post the results into this thread.

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Hey all,

Just to bring this thread back to life - I have recently discovered a combination of settings within Compressor that allow for VERY nice looking standards conversion - better than the Nattress plugin.

I have only tested this on PAL > NTSC, but the results are better than anything I have ever seen in a software conversion.

Try this:

Load a PAL clip (use something uncompressed if you can).
Take the PAL to NTSC preset that's already in Compressor and apply it.
Go to your frame controls and turn 'em on.
Set your Resize Filter to BEST
Set Fields as appropriate (I use progressive)
Set Deinterlace to BETTER (not BEST)
Set rate conversion to BETTER (not BEST)

I have tested this on a few clips and found no frame stuttering, minimal blending, and no softening like you get with Nattress. Nattress is good - but Compressor does this GREAT!!

I will also post this as a new thread for those that might not be subscribed, and I'll try an NTSC to PAL transfer in the meantime emoticon



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