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Re: BREATHING SPACE. Organising a gig - what we're up against
The proglord doth agree wholeheartedly with the grayebb entity, the ways of prog are truer and less adulterated now than at any time in progistory but The Proglord cannot help but pine for the days when Prog ruled the Earth and the leading progreators of the day played to hundereds of thousands of rapt and blissful progappreciators atop vast stage structures, days when every man woman and child in the earthly realm was exposed to the sacred ways.
Can it happen again? Will the mighty beast that is prog rise from it's slumber and trample all the useless punk imitating art students, blithering brainless manufactured plasticine pop combos, and mindless wigger rappers into the ground striding forward like the colussus it is to its rightful place in the earthly realm, a place where the grand pooh-bah once again regales us with his gargantuan works of keyboard maestrosity from every media outlet and sports stadium across the globe and Da Fish appears on MTV scrolling the words to Lavenders Blue from a flip chart every 15 minutes.
It shall pass. Truly the behemoth will rise, prog will again ascend to it's natural positon of musical primacy, the frippatronics will be unleashed and all will hail before the mighty triparate deity composed of the consciousness of His Wakemanness, Da Fish and The Waters ManGod.
Hear me, hear me, the hour is at hand the Pentatuech is to be reunited, gather in your prog capes you special few who have carried the torch for so long in these thin times for your time is come, the beast is risen, assemble at the place of sacred power and ride once again to glory for the whole world shall be turned into a Roger Dean landscape and we shall bond in glorious union with the 83 fingered elfin keyboard maestros of cazirmuth 4 and make glorious enchanting music in the progiverse for all eternity...
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23/Mar/07, 12:19 pm
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The proglord appears to have got a little carried away, he apologises and has decided that he will hencefoth abstain from herbal recreation until after lunch.....
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23/Mar/07, 12:21 pm
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Re: BREATHING SPACE. Organising a gig - what we're up against
Well you convinced me with your inspiration speech... The rock rolls on!
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23/Mar/07, 12:25 pm
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Re: BREATHING SPACE. Organising a gig - what we're up against
Proglord, have you listened to all of Iron Maiden's Albums? if not then withdraw thy comments or face the sword of wrath!!!!!!
If you have in truth heard them all then I disagree with you on this one 
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23/Mar/07, 12:47 pm
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At the risk of incurring the wrath of Steve Harris dedicated army of nutswingers......
The proglord cant say he didnt know what he was getting himself into here!!
He will agree that the 2 DiAnno albums may not be subject to the generalisation he outlines.....
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23/Mar/07, 12:53 pm
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Re: BREATHING SPACE. Organising a gig - what we're up against
As a long-standing Maiden nutswinger of the highest order, I have invested a hell of a lot of time and money in Steve Harris Inc. over the years and I can stand up and wholeheartedly state that most Maiden albums sound pretty similar to each other.
It all sounds cool, but variety isn't one of the band's unique sellin gpoints by any stretch.
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23/Mar/07, 1:04 pm
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With a very few exceptions, all bands find a sound that suits them and stick to it. It will then develope over the lifetime of the band, but usually not changing that much. How many 'rock' bands do a 10 track album with 7 standard tracks a ballad a foot tapping song and the acoustic number. NEARLY ALL OF THEM, and why not if it works and we like it.
Prog rock bands even suffer from this.
Changing sound from album to album or even track to track tends to allianate the bands followers, even if it does sometimes attract new ones eg. Jethro Tull early 80's, King Crimson late 70's, Marillion late 80's and dare I say this is partly true with Mostly Autumn now. Thank god it doesn't destroy the bands but usually provides a wider fan base in the long term. (mustn't mention Genesis at this point)
My point being Mr. Proglord, don't pick on the Irons they are way to big to attack, pick on a little band like Judas Priest if you want to have a go. Once your argument has been fine tuned than move on to bigger fish.
p.s. I hope PTG isn't a Priest fan! 
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24/Mar/07, 6:41 am
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With a very few exceptions, all bands find a sound that suits them and stick to it. It will then develope over the lifetime of the band, but usually not changing that much. How many 'rock' bands do a 10 track album with 7 standard tracks a ballad a foot tapping song and the acoustic number. NEARLY ALL OF THEM, and why not if it works and we like it.
Prog rock bands even suffer from this.
Changing sound from album to album or even track to track tends to allianate the bands followers, even if it does sometimes attract new ones eg. Jethro Tull early 80's, King Crimson late 70's, Marillion late 80's and dare I say this is partly true with Mostly Autumn now. Thank god it doesn't destroy the bands but usually provides a wider fan base in the long term. (mustn't mention Genesis at this point)
My point being Mr. Proglord, don't pick on the Irons they are way to big to attack, pick on a little band like Judas Priest if you want to have a go. Once your argument has been fine tuned than move on to bigger fish.
p.s. I hope PTG isn't a Priest fan!
he he 
No band is too big to attack. Maiden, like many bands in the Metal genre do stick to a definite formula, whereas Prog bands should, by nature, change and develop, hence the tag "Progressive Rock".
I just don't understand your final point about picking on a smaller band and then moving on to bigger fish.
Maiden have made three albums in their career:
The "in-your-face metal one" (eg. Iron Maiden)
The "proggy-one-with-the-epics" (eg. Piece of Mind)
The "experimental-one" (eg. Somewhere in Time)
Then they've just used these blueprints for every album since. It's not really mattered as we've still all run out and bought them all when they've been released.
But back to the original point, there are absolutely tonnes of Maiden compositions that sound unnervingly like "Achilles Last Stand"... Anyone with functioning ears could tell you that!
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With a very few exceptions, all bands find a sound that suits them and stick to it. It will then develope over the lifetime of the band, but usually not changing that much. How many 'rock' bands do a 10 track album with 7 standard tracks a ballad a foot tapping song and the acoustic number. NEARLY ALL OF THEM, and why not if it works and we like it.
Prog rock bands even suffer from this.
Changing sound from album to album or even track to track tends to allianate the bands followers, even if it does sometimes attract new ones eg. Jethro Tull early 80's, King Crimson late 70's, Marillion late 80's and dare I say this is partly true with Mostly Autumn now. Thank god it doesn't destroy the bands but usually provides a wider fan base in the long term. (mustn't mention Genesis at this point)
My point being Mr. Proglord, don't pick on the Irons they are way to big to attack, pick on a little band like Judas Priest if you want to have a go. Once your argument has been fine tuned than move on to bigger fish.
p.s. I hope PTG isn't a Priest fan!
More of a Motorhead fan really!!
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OK PTG thought it was the Uriah heep god you worshiped, as should all
Greyebb you obviously took my comments for real, which seems to happen a lot on here. I personally don't give two smarties what anyone thinks about any band. I know what I like and thats all that matters. (that started off like a song title?)
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