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David Meadows
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It should never be re-pressed anyway. If it's made up of what David Meadows says is rejected material,
Yes, and it's well known that I know everything that went on in Bryan's mind, in fact he consulted my at every step of the production process so what I wrote is gospel.
NOT.
I was just musing on "what ifs" that ocurred to me when reading your post.
But such is the nature of the Internet that my theory will be reported as fact by those fine journalists at Classic Rock Magazine next month. So it goes.
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All you people objecting to paying £30.00 for this album.take note of the following points.
1. You did not have to order it.It was your choice.
2.You complain that the package is not as good as Storms.Fair enough,the packaging may be poorer but you are getting a whole CDs worth of unavailable music.What would you rather have,that or a nice pretty book.Having said that,there are some people who prefer style over substance...
3.You criticise the music on this CD,and say what great fans you are,yet this is the 1st time you have posted.Have you ever felt the urge to say anything positive about Mostly Autumn?
If the answer is "no" then why bother listening.
4.As to you comments about the musical quality of the new CD,I cannot comment as I have yet to hear it.That being the case I would prefer more constructive criticism than "Boring" or "Muddy production".
Have a nice day,
Mike
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20/Dec/06, 12:18 am
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All you people objecting to paying £30.00 for this album.take note of the following points.
1. You did not have to order it.It was your choice.
2.You complain that the package is not as good as Storms.Fair enough,the packaging may be poorer but you are getting a whole CDs worth of unavailable music.What would you rather have,that or a nice pretty book.Having said that,there are some people who prefer style over substance...
3.You criticise the music on this CD,and say what great fans you are,yet this is the 1st time you have posted.Have you ever felt the urge to say anything positive about Mostly Autumn?
If the answer is "no" then why bother listening.
4.As to you comments about the musical quality of the new CD,I cannot comment as I have yet to hear it.That being the case I would prefer more constructive criticism than "Boring" or "Muddy production".
Have a nice day,
Mike
1) Correct, we did not have to order it, that's not what we're complaining about.
2) It's a legitimate complaint that the packaging is poor and has nothing to do with criticism of the music which is a separate issue.
3) I feel that I am entitled to criticise MA when appropriate as I have purchased all their studio albums including HFOS and all the DVDs and have been to a huge number of live gigs in the past. I don't know how many of the critical posts are from first time posters but I have certainly posted in the past on this website. When the band do something worthy of praise you'll certainly hear it from me. Check out my comments in the York DVD booklet under Bernard of Ringwood.
4) I have yet to hear HFOS enough to make a detailed criticism but so far I have noted and posted about the muddy sound of the mix which I believe is caused by the abscence of Iain Jenning keyboards underpinning the other members of the band and the replacement with guitar riffs. I've also mentioned a couple of tracks, Pocketwatch and Walk With a Storm which I think are awful. I'll give a more comprehensive review when I've heard the album more.
We don't want this forum to end up like the official one where all you see is how wonderful the band is. I'll always give you my honest opinion, good or bad.
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Mikefoley3.You criticise the music on this CD,and say what great fans you are,yet this is the 1st time you have posted.Have you ever felt the urge to say anything positive about Mostly Autumn?
If the answer is "no" then why bother listening.
what the hell has that got to do with anything, are you suggesting that because you have more posts than me, that you like them more?
trying to pull rank over the noobs - pathetic
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Mikefoley wrote:
All you people objecting to paying £30.00 for this album.take note of the following points.
1. You did not have to order it.It was your choice.
2.You complain that the package is not as good as Storms.Fair enough,the packaging may be poorer but you are getting a whole CDs worth of unavailable music.What would you rather have,that or a nice pretty book.Having said that,there are some people who prefer style over substance...
3.You criticise the music on this CD,and say what great fans you are,yet this is the 1st time you have posted.Have you ever felt the urge to say anything positive about Mostly Autumn?
If the answer is "no" then why bother listening.
4.As to you comments about the musical quality of the new CD,I cannot comment as I have yet to hear it.That being the case I would prefer more constructive criticism than "Boring" or "Muddy production".
Have a nice day,
Mike
1. Yes it was my choice to help out a band I've followed for five years or so and since I took part last time, I was under the impression that I'd get the return I got last time.
2. If you'd read the comments I'd posted during the day, you'd learn that I (and quite a few others) think the music presented on the CDs, whether it's exclusive or not, is way below the standard of previous releases and also suffers from poor production values. The packaging is all part of the presentation and gives it a real "special edition" feel, which MA and other bands indulge in for such pre-releases, if you feel that £30 for two CDs of sub-par music in a boring jewel case is good value, then that's your look-out.
3. I maybe a "noob" or whatever, but I have been following the band a long while and have spread the word during that time introducing quite a number of people to the band. I'll be the first to stand up and say something is good, but I'll also not be backwards in coming forwards to say I don't like something.
4. How can you slam me for criticising an album that you do not actually have in your possession yet? I've just offered a few words on what I think of the album, I could add a lot more, but I don't want to come across as totally rude.
How can you type your rant at me when you have no basis on which to criticise me as you only know half the story. Grow up and realise that people can be disappointed and say what they feel.
You have a nice day too.
Grayebb
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I believe he's wondering where you've been before yesterday.
Of course, it's not compulsory to post on band internet forums from the moment you first buy one of their albums!
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20/Dec/06, 10:08 am
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Ed1909 wrote:
I believe he's wondering where you've been before yesterday.
Of course, it's not compulsory to post on band internet forums from the moment you first buy one of their albums!
I totally understand that I am being attacked for appearing from nowhere and actually daring to say that Mostly Autumn have fallen way short of delivering the goods. It's a shame that some people can't accept people's points-of-view, of indeed read the rest of the posts before jumping in.
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the proglord is confused that the entity grayebb is attacked for offering his opinion on this album on the basis that he has in the past offered no positive praise of the progreators known as Mostly Autumn.
does the Folly entity seek to suggest that in order to register ones dissatisfaction one must first offer ones unconditional praise, even if one feels this praise is not justified? Also the proglord is sure that all the recently arrived entities have offered in this domain praise for the past work of the progreators Mostly Autum and it is against this praise that they conrast their current disappointment.
in fact the proglord feels that all the comments the folly entity makes have been addressed elsewhere and is struck by the irony that an entity seeks to chastise another entity on the basis of registering insufficient comment and yet is not prepared himself to read the comments that entity has made when by the folly entity's own argument these comments must bevery few in number and therefore must surely not be onerous to loacte and peruse.
the proglord was floating back to his quarters yesterday in his progule when the air was filled with the blissful music created by the waters deity which the proglord beleives was sent to him by the pooh-bah in resposne to the proglords travails in the earthly realm.
he fears the words the waters deity sent were a prediction of what the entity grayebb is to be subjected to in this domain....
Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.
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The Grayebb entity is honoured by the proglord's reply and sends his salutations and respects!
Hail The Wakeman!
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20/Dec/06, 11:19 am
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markyboy1 wrote:
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Mikefoley3.You criticise the music on this CD,and say what great fans you are,yet this is the 1st time you have posted.Have you ever felt the urge to say anything positive about Mostly Autumn?
If the answer is "no" then why bother listening.
what the hell has that got to do with anything, are you suggesting that because you have more posts than me, that you like them more?
trying to pull rank over the noobs - pathetic
This is the kind of thing put in forums by 14 year old fanatics who cannot accept any other point of view other than their own.
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