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Re: The first listen...
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quote: markyboy1 wrote:
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So, just to recap... the artwork and casing was crap...
Okay, now everyone who bought Heart Full of Sky purely for the casing (and NOT the music) raise their hands.
No one?
I thought not.
the music is pretty poor by MA's standards as well.....
Hey, I'm not disputing that the music might not be up to their usual standards. Just pointing out that we DID buy it primarily for the music, and the music is, and always will be, the primary focus of any album. Full stop.
I know what I paid for, and it wasn't the a funky cd case.
your a fiesty one
I'll take that as a compliment.
Proglord, I have no idea. I haven't heard the music yet, nor will I until at least christmas day. Once I've heard the music, I'll let you know. 
Well, I hope that you get more out of it than I have, I really do.
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Re: The first listen...
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the proglord then asks whether you personally feel that at £30 for a double CD this represented good money to you as an MA fan based purely on the musical content and disregarding the packaging issue?
Moonloop does feel that the album represents value for money (although Moonloop does have deep reservations about the £3 postage).
Moonloop recently took Mrs Moonloop for a Chinese and some liquid refreshment and paid a progfans beard whisker over £50 for the experience. £30 for Mostly Autumn therefore represents a small drop in the Topographics, relatively speaking
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When MA offered a delux package of The Story So Far DVD with your name printed in the booklet if you paid a premium up front, I didn't bother.
The reason? I didn't have a DVD player. And £12.99 for my name printed under a "thank you" wasn't value for money.
Of course, a month after the disk was released I got a DVD player. (I could have deduced that by applying some basic psychohistorical techniques. I have no excuse for my incompetence...)
So of course I bought the DVD but I was forever denied the thrill of having my name printed in the book. Gutted? Er... no, not really. I have a great DVD that's great value for money
There is no point to this reminiscence
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Re: The first listen...
quote: theproglord wrote:
quote: Moonloop wrote:
Moonloop does feel that the album represents value for money (although Moonloop does have deep reservations about the £3 postage).
Moonloop recently took Mrs Moonloop for a Chinese and some liquid refreshment and paid a progfans beard whisker over £50 for the experience. £30 for Mostly Autumn therefore represents a small drop in the Topographics, relatively speaking
Proglord thanks the prog gods daily that musical enlightenment is still relatively cheap in this prog-diminished world. But really should have contextualised his query to be within the realm of CD purchases where £30 for even a double is very expensive.
Proglord sympathises with the cost of chaperoning ones progette for an evening, and hopes (witout being too personal)that after shelling out £50 on a meal and some wine Mrs Moonloop obliged as far as firing up The Big Generator for some Union and Moonloop didnt end up with just Talk and Going for The One on the sofa over the 10 minute freeviews on Sky after she went to bed......
Theproglord, you are 1 in 90215!
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I think we've already established that there are some people who bought the pre-order package to get something which both had good music AND special packaging as per the "Storms..." pre-order package.
So please go back and count those hands again. Surely even just one unsatisfied customer is a bad thing for a band in MA's position?
Since I do not yet have my copy on this side of the pond, I can't speak to the great debate on HFoS. Your last statement, however, is the first comment I know the band would disagree with.
I have heard Bryan, and other bands for that matter, point out that their music evolves. They hope that their fans join them for the ride, but they know not everyone will appreciate the changes.
Whether this is good or bad for the band becomes irrelevant. The band makes the music they want to make and has to leave it to their fans and others in their audience to decide for themselves whether they like what they've produced.
Cheers,
Paul from across the pond
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Re: The first listen...
quote: grayebb wrote:
quote: theproglord wrote:
quote: Moonloop wrote:
Moonloop does feel that the album represents value for money (although Moonloop does have deep reservations about the £3 postage).
Moonloop recently took Mrs Moonloop for a Chinese and some liquid refreshment and paid a progfans beard whisker over £50 for the experience. £30 for Mostly Autumn therefore represents a small drop in the Topographics, relatively speaking
Proglord thanks the prog gods daily that musical enlightenment is still relatively cheap in this prog-diminished world. But really should have contextualised his query to be within the realm of CD purchases where £30 for even a double is very expensive.
Proglord sympathises with the cost of chaperoning ones progette for an evening, and hopes (witout being too personal)that after shelling out £50 on a meal and some wine Mrs Moonloop obliged as far as firing up The Big Generator for some Union and Moonloop didnt end up with just Talk and Going for The One on the sofa over the 10 minute freeviews on Sky after she went to bed......
Theproglord, you are 1 in 90215!
mr moonloop are you not divulging any information about cracking one off to 'totally busted' and then crab walking into the kitchen for some thirst pockets
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But the poor, misguided, directionless familiar
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Re: The first listen...
quote: konstantph wrote:
quote: grayebb wrote:
I think we've already established that there are some people who bought the pre-order package to get something which both had good music AND special packaging as per the "Storms..." pre-order package.
So please go back and count those hands again. Surely even just one unsatisfied customer is a bad thing for a band in MA's position?
Since I do not yet have my copy on this side of the pond, I can't speak to the great debate on HFoS. Your last statement, however, is the first comment I know the band would disagree with.
I have heard Bryan, and other bands for that matter, point out that their music evolves. They hope that their fans join them for the ride, but they know not everyone will appreciate the changes.
Whether this is good or bad for the band becomes irrelevant. The band makes the music they want to make and has to leave it to their fans and others in their audience to decide for themselves whether they like what they've produced.
Cheers,
Paul from across the pond
easy thing to say when you haven't heard it boyo, believe me!
--- A spider wanders aimlessly within the warmth of a shadow,
Not the regal creature of border caves,
But the poor, misguided, directionless familiar
of some obscure Scottish poet.
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Re: The first listen...
quote: konstantph wrote:
quote: grayebb wrote:
I think we've already established that there are some people who bought the pre-order package to get something which both had good music AND special packaging as per the "Storms..." pre-order package.
So please go back and count those hands again. Surely even just one unsatisfied customer is a bad thing for a band in MA's position?
Since I do not yet have my copy on this side of the pond, I can't speak to the great debate on HFoS. Your last statement, however, is the first comment I know the band would disagree with.
I have heard Bryan, and other bands for that matter, point out that their music evolves. They hope that their fans join them for the ride, but they know not everyone will appreciate the changes.
Whether this is good or bad for the band becomes irrelevant. The band makes the music they want to make and has to leave it to their fans and others in their audience to decide for themselves whether they like what they've produced.
Cheers,
Paul from across the pond
Yes, but it's a business and that view is totally misguided and nieve. They need to sell copies of the records so that they can continue to operate as a band as a full-time concern and not have to work a part-time job in McDonalds around the band.
If they're asking for money upfront for a product, then they need to take into account the fact that people will want a good product. So if some of those people feel VERY short-changed by the offering one time, they will not pay for the next product up-front. Thus the band have shot themselves in the foot by thinking that a lot of people will indulge them and pay for future recordings.
Bryan Josh is deluded if he thinks that someone who feels like they've not had good value for money will pre-order another product off him when other bands follow through with promises of value-for-money on their products. Any band who think like Mr Josh obviously does are either foolish or a member of Metallica or KISS and already have more money than God.
I'm sure that if the band carry on like this, they'll be wishing that they'd been more careful with the good will of the fanbase in previous promotions.
Also, by saying that "we don't care what the fans think" is a complete insult to those who have supported you in the past. It's such a cop-out to say that. Fine, I want to the band to progress, this is "progressive rock" after all, but you've got to make sure that the music is good and the whole package is a completely cohesive package. Flogging something sub-par and then saying "I don't care if you don't like it" is an insult and front to the fans. Of course they don't care, they've already been paid for the damn thing.
Wake up and see ot for what it is. We've paid for it, now they can take the money and run.
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MA are operating in a niche market they need to look after who they have
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But the poor, misguided, directionless familiar
of some obscure Scottish poet.
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