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brad6
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Re: K-Drama: 미우나 고우나 (Likable or Not)
Kim Hye Ok plays a mother in the drama 'Robbers'. this is the Jang Hyuck drama which has not yet been shown here on TV. It is really a very good drama. Jang is a pretty good actor and can change his persona for many different roles.
Kim Hye Ok has a more dramatic character to play and she does it well. she also has a very pleasant singing voice. Definitely not a shrinking violet in this story.
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3/9/2008, 11:11 pm
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smoochie1:
Thanks for the correction. Indeed I meant to write Kim Hae-sook as the actress playing Dongji. I read from the wrong line in the cast of characters listed in KoreanWiz.
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3/10/2008, 7:33 am
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Do you really think Dongji married Mansu to get Baekho into the Bonjour family?
Maybe so, but I don't recall it that way at all. It seems to me that Dongji has done everything possible to keep Baekho away or invisible from the family. When Dongji married Mansu, she left Baekho alone to fend for himself however he could. He only had a place to sleep because her condo hadn't yet sold.
It has been Mansu who has insisted on bringing Baekho into the family, accepting him as his son, and employing him. Mansu wanted to give Baekho a better position, but it was Dongji who fought against it. It was Dongji who objected to Mansu giving him a credit card or helping him in any way financially. Dongji might be happy that her son is employed as a temporary worker at Bonjour, but she has always tried to shut him up and keep him "in his place," so he doesn't make any waves for her at home or work.
Maybe she's just biding her time until Granny's opposition lessens. If so, I don't like the method to her madness. If her goal always was to bring Baekho into the Bonjour fold, it doesn't seem very logical to me that she so easily would have signed the promissory note with Granny—a promise that disinherits and denies Baekho. I've always had the feeling that Dongji is more ashamed of her son in front of Granny than she is concerned about Granny accepting her personally as her DIL.
But I do agree that Dongji must be ashamed of something before Granny and it has to do with the Kangs. Dongji isn't a Kang, however. But we have been led to believe that Baekho is the son of a Kang. So, obviously, there must be a scurrilous backstory going on, since both Dongji and Granny have shame/discomfort regarding the past.
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3/10/2008, 1:53 pm
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nchristi:
I assume you latest post is directed at mine. I agree with what you say until the statement “but she has always tried to shut him up and keep him ‘in his place,’ so he doesn't make any waves for her at home or work.” I don’t think Dongji worries much about her own position in the family as long as appearances to the outside are maintained. Otherwise we would never hear the end of her complaints.
When I said that by marrying Mansu she got Baekho a job at Bonjour, I was referring to the result, not the intent. I’m certain she would have preferred that Baekho find alternate employment. But once he landed at Bonjour, she would want him to stay there and therefore behaves with circumspection. As for the agreement she signed with Grandma Choi, she did so to obtain approval for marriage. Baekho was not a factor in her calculations at the time since she didn’t see him joining the family. But he’s part of it now, so the agreement has some bearing on her conduct.
As for the Kang story, we really have no evidence of wrongdoing on anyone’s part. Perhaps because we all have a strong dislike for the old lady, we want her involved in some shady past transaction that will bring discredit to her and her pride when it is brought to light. It might also be a method for despoiling Sua and therefore Seonjae. (While I may be one of the few who like the guy, I admit that he must be taught a lesson. For sure, Sua needs a comeuppance.) In an early episode, after Mansu mentioned to his mother that he wanted to bring Dongji home, she spewed out the name Kang and nearly gagged. That gave all of us a suspicion of an untold tale. Like someone else - was it you - who recalled “On the Prairie,” I thought of the plot line whereby the relative positions of two families were reversed due to some double dealing. Maybe the screenwriters will give the line a go here. Remember, I’m always trying to find the outcome that will justify the KBS synopsis introductory statement that you reproduced for us that Seonjae will suffer a “subsequent downfall.” I’ll be terribly disappointment if his punishment is simply writing out 500 times, “I was a bad boy for dumping my girlfriend.”
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3/10/2008, 5:57 pm
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Donji (DJ) was reluctant to let her son work at Bonjour initially when her husband brought it up. I think she was more concerned with what the grandma would say. Then after further discussion with her husband, DJ realized that her son may learn something there and she did tell her husband to start her son off in a temporary position (the lowest level).
I also think that DJ married Mr. Bong because she truly loves him and wants to be with him. I doubt putting her son in a better place/living condition was one of her considerations in marrying Mr. Bong. BH was going to live in their old apartment by himself. It was an arrangement that Mr. Bong didn't want, but DJ insisted. But it was BH's car accident (as a substitute driver) which prompted Mr. Bong to suggest that BH should come recover at his house, and then he later suggested that BH should live with them and get a job at Bonjour. Mr. Bong realized that BH is so important to his wife that if she can see her son everyday and knows that he has a stable job, her mind would be more settled.
DJ is doing everything her mother-in-law tells her to do, essentially acting as the housekeeper, cleaning lady, and cook because she wants to make her mother-in-law feel that she is a worthy daughter-in-law. She wants to do her job right because she wants to stay married to Mr. Bong (and have a peaceful family environment). If anything else, they are very happy as a married couple. Mr. Bong knows that DJ's life hasn't been easy (especially when his mother is concerned) since she married him. He does appreciate her and is always doing the romantic stuff for his wife. But when you think about her life before her marriage to Mr. Bong, DJ was constantly in debt and worrying about her no-good son and, to a lesser extent, her brother. Life is full of trade offs. She traded off her freedom of doing whatever she wants (and sometimes her dignity) by having financial security and the love of an adoring husband. Don't forget, her son, her brother and his son are all staying in the house now. I think in the eyes of most older Korean audience, this character isn't doing too badly in terms of lifestyle choice.
As the story unfolds, SA is still a brat, but her anger about SJ's involvement in JY's accident on her mother's death anniversary is not something that can be resolved easily. I would be pissed too if my newlywed husband is meeting his ex for whatever the reason. I may not react the same way as SA does, but certainly a warning bell would go off in my head. I think the same warning bell is ringing loudly in SA's head now and she is trying, in her own way, to figure out what to do about it. She is not a sympathetic character and one may even say that she deserves what she dished out, but I still feel sorry for her. Nothing in her upbringing (or education) has prepared her for her "sufferings" after she married SJ. She doesn't know how to deal with it all. I am curious how they will resolve this one.
I feel Danpoong (DP) has been blamed too much for not speaking up sooner about her feelings about the Dr. She tried to tell him, but he just wouldn't listen. From day 1 of their meeting, the Dr. was so taken with DP that he insisted on seeing her again and again. She thought, fine, I will try meeting him as a friend. But he kept taking steps beyond her feelings for him. Like she said before, he has all the qualifications that a good spouse should possess, so she let that impeded her true feelings about him. She should have said NO from day 1, but she was just being nice by giving him a chance. Anyways, you can just see as DP's feeling for BH grows, the Dr. just has no way of getting into DP's heart. I mean the sign that she never worn the ring should give the Dr. some idea how she feels about him. Most girls, if they really want to marry the guy, would put on that ring very quickly. Even with that, the Dr. still pushed for an engagement.
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3/10/2008, 7:37 pm
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that's why now I don't hate Dr.that much as before, because the who situation created by Dan, she does not clear enough to tell Dan from very beginning, now Dr. got so crazy in love with her, and still thought she loved him too. she just dragging the whole thing, Dan is nice person but just try to get both way to Dr. and somebody else better to come along. and not want to drop Dr. first. I have lesser interest in her and Baekho now
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