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pandapop
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Re: K-Drama: 미우나 고우나 (Likable or Not)
Thank you bugoy for the explanation. Hooray! We have an in house Korean speaker. Hope you don’t mind giving us more cultural and language lessons.!!!
I remember in Pure in Heart, Yunho (iceman) called Gukhwa ssi “Yobong”…And she was all embarrassed about that. The subtitles for that term was something like “honey pie”…..lol,lol.
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3/7/2008, 7:00 pm
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Pandapop,
I confess-Nope, I don't speak Korean, I've just picked up a little bit over the course of watching the dramas. Terms of address frequently are used alone and I can hear the words and know the context in which they are used-and I can ask some of my neighbors who are Korean. 90% of the Korean I know involves terms of address, honorifics (polite speech), insults and soap opera type words (affair, breakup, pervert, divorce etc.) My previous post covers just about everything I know on the topic.
In the last couple of days I did learn the phrase for lover's quarrel though..
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3/7/2008, 9:52 pm
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Have to say that I was a bit disappointed with tonight's episode...maybe, I've become spoiled by all the fabulous cliff-hanger episodes of the previous Friday shows but tonight didn't have it, for me!!
-All of a sudden, the psycho doc has a bit of a conscience & DP still treats him with "kid gloves"?? And Baekho saying that he's happy for them both
-Sua & Granny deserve each other but Seonjae has dug himself a hole, that I can't see him getting out of!! Wonder what he's going to tell Mansu?
-Liked the "teasing" interaction between Jiyeong & Ujin!!
-So Miae storms in on Dalhyeon & Sonya again but runs, when a casting call for a weekend drama comes her way...but not before, she plants a kiss on Dalhyeon's cheek, right in front of Sonya You're making me look bad, by liking you so much, Miae, LOL!!
--- Nam Sang-Mi...my favorite K-drama actress & a BEAUTIFUL woman!!
Chae Rim...my 2nd favorite K-drama actress & gorgeous!!
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3/7/2008, 10:26 pm
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I would expect Seonjae to easily get off the hot seat with Mansu. He'll just tell his FIL that Sua has hysterically jumped to a nutty conclusion—once again. All the cold, hard facts can easily equal Seonjae being innocent (though secretly he isn't). That he saw a woman hit on the street and rushed her to the hospital is an admirable thing to do, Dad. It's just a coincidence that the woman happened to be an ex-GF/fiancée. And he met at the restaurant with Jiyeong only for the payback of the hospital expenses, right? He didn't tell Sua the truth because he was afraid she would do crazy, violent things—like attack Jiyeong, pull her hair, throw her to the floor, humiliate her husband in public, etc.
I expect Mansu to be the understanding guy he usually is. Seonjae will escape suspicion and Mansu's wrath yet again.
Once again Seonjae is Granny's bane. LOL! Loved how he just blew off her demands that he come to Bonjour Manor "right now." Then Granny demands he come there directly after work. He says he's busy, has a meeting to attend, and hangs up. Sputtering Granny can't believe it. "Is he coming after work, or isn't he??!!!" Her whole world of priorities and protocol is being turned upside by the ever calm, cool, and collected—and ever polite to her—Seonjae.
Hyeonu and Dan - I was kind of surprised that Dan stuck to her guns and refused to go after the drunk, devastated Hyeonu. I haven't liked his tactics, but I can't be so hard on Hyeonu. He pursued the woman he loved and heavily invested in her with his emotions because she wasn't clear on whether or not—and when—to call it quits. I can't blame her for that, either. Both she and Hyeonu seem very inexperienced in this area and have been learning as they go along. It looks as though Hyeonu might finally give up, though. A bitter pill, but one he will learn to swallow.
Miae - I will gladly package her up and send her to you, lock, stock and barrel, lex! LOL!
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3/9/2008, 9:33 am
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I find the Sua/Soonjae connection much more interesting that the Dan/Heonnu/Baekho triad. In fact I think Dan is rather a vaccuum when it comes to understanding other people. She is centred on her job with a desire to make it a career. I think Baekho could find a much more lovable person as his life partner if he just stopped his interest in Dan.
It seems to me that the writers have put themselves into corners except for the Sua/Soonjae plans. so many places to go with them. It's just a matter of time before she matures more and realises that she will be the winner if she learns to finesse her attitude and actions.
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3/9/2008, 12:39 pm
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It is certainly welcome news if, as usfkman reports, the screenwriters will at last allow the Baekho-Danpung romance to heat up. Unfortunately, since Korea is about 30 episodes ahead of us, we won’t see the effects for a while. At least it seems that the bewildered doctor is about to bow out. As booby prize, Baekho should introduce him to the airline stewardess. Unlike Danpung, she understands the rules of the mating game.
We have at least 50 episodes to go, something like 3 months. Is it too early to begin speculation on the pivot of the story, Baekho’s parentage and heritage? Specifically, there are two questions to be answered: who is Baekho’s father and what was the relation between the Choi/Bong and Kang families?
Many people here think Mansu is Baekho’s father. It’s one way to hook Baekho cleanly into the Bonjour empire (as opposed to Seonjae’s underhanded method). I’d say most of the evidence so far presented to us is against that idea.
But how Mr Kang, Baekho’s nominal father, fits in is an equally interesting question. When Mansu first informed his mother that he wanted to bring Dongji into the fold, the old lady spewed her spite at the name Kang, not at Dongji per se. Why? One answer is that she stole Bonjour from Kang. If this is true, the ramifications are obvious.
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3/9/2008, 2:32 pm
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I am also interested in finding out more on the Kang/ Choi/Bong family history Pleiad….and what is the problem with Dongji?? She is the ultimate irritator to me. . Much more so than either Sua or Miae. Dongji is basically playing the servant role in the Bong family. Is she feeling some kind of guilt? Maybe her first husband did something awful to Mansu or Granny? Her role is down to very minimum and non-existence…I wonder if this actress is busy with other projects? She is a well known actress, isn’t she?
Whenever Dongji starts lecturing or giving advise to Baekho or Dalhyeon, all I want to do is yelling at the TV ...."Get out of here Dongji !!!”….She has lost all respect from me.
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3/9/2008, 3:48 pm
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Peg, I'd agree except that I just can't stand Sua. Actually, the most interesting is Seonjae. Sometimes I think he loves Jiyeong, sometimes I think that even though he married Sua, he's willilng to appreciate her and be a good husband. Sometimes he seems like a decent guy, then again he's the smug power-hungry boss who can fire people at will. He seemingly follows his parents' instructions, but actually he's making his own decisions--he's very good at hiding himself within his culture's rules. He's one of the more interesting characters in all of these daily dramas I've seen.
Danpung--I'd like her more except that her character has to pursue marriage, of course. It would be different if she liked Baekho, but didn't want to marry him! Then I'd find her really interesting!! LOL
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3/9/2008, 6:33 pm
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pandapop:
One of the reasons I got interested in this drama was that it was one of the few where adults were allowed to have a serious love affair. In fact, while Mansu’s wooing and Dongji’s cooing didn’t set any records for ardor, it certainly has beaten anything their children have generated up to now.
As an aside, the actress who plays Dongji, Kim Hye-ok, is indeed well known and appears regularly in maternal roles. I don’t know if she’s in any other current drama - we last saw her in “Chil Sisters.” She usually plays the “earth mother,” the nurturing as opposed to the pushing type. She almost always only has daughters, so she doesn’t have to worry about adopting a mother-in-law persona.
Here in “Migo,” while it is true that Dongji has become akin to a servant in her own husband’s household, it is her mother-in-law, the matriarch Madame Choi, who is losing face in the arrangement. For a woman of her stature to have no maids to perform household chores is to look ridiculous in the eyes of society. It is one thing to berate your people: however crude, that’s an exercise of power. It’s another thing to make them appear servile in public: that’s an exercise in self-flagellation.
As for Dongji’s subservience, I think it’s based on two factors. First, she’ll do anything to promote her son’s prospects in life. By marrying into Mansu’s family, she got Baekho into Bonjour. As long as he is in an apprentice position, she won’t do anything to endanger his employment. Second, remember the agreement she signed with Grandma Choi as a condition of the latter’s approval of Dongji’s marriage to Mansu. As long as the old lady is alive, it would be best to keep the agreement secret. That, pandapop, is Dongji’s problem.
It’s interesting that you take the possible hanky-panky involving the late Mr Kang in the opposite direction from me. You wonder that perhaps Dongji is acting the way she does because of a sense of guilt. If she had that sense, I think she would never had married Mansu, no matter how advantageous the union would be for Baekho. I go the other way. It is Grandma Choi who feels the twinge, and it may be she and her granddaughter who take a fall in the end.
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3/9/2008, 9:57 pm
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