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Dr. Psycho has always been 50 steps ahead of DP and has never respected DP's state in this relationship. He's more interested in achieving his end goal at all costs that he doesn't take anytime to do any dirty work to make a relationship work from the inside out. He'd rather go on meaningless dates and act like a couple when he knows very well that things are bit of a stretch with him and DP. I don't think DP led him on enough to blame her for what is happening now. She said that she wasn't ready to be engaged, she's not wearing the ring and she has never been the one to schedule formal dinners among the parents. Seriously, who says "marry me for my status?"

Psycho docs insecurity and bipolar tendencies are utterly annoying. I look forward to the day he gets dumped and realizes he has a horrible personality.
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I think this is what DP gave the Dr wrong impression, that it is ok to just have a normal date - like Uj want SJ let him date her - not guys or girls stuff, but look how it turns out, Dr thought he would have hope, push and push harder for this relationship.
I hope SJ cool for sometimes not just take another guy right now, her feeling still very strong to the jerk, if anyone come along, it would be only replacement, the real love would not be develop just like that.
I hate to watch Sua, but I love the mil suffer all the housework and service she has to provide to the stupid rich brat, now mil smell the coffee.
Like a lot of people see only outside - Donji married rich man, thought she has a wonderful life, also like mil thought has rich girl to be dil, but it turn out not easy to handle, I guess, this is life.
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Tsnowice: Nice to hear from you. It's been a long time..

famcgee: Welcome. I agree with you that Dan really didn't 'lead' Dr. Psycho on. I think she was pressured by him, his mother, her mother. She wanted to love him. She tried to love him. They've only been dating a short while and he's having her try on wedding dresses!!

Dan told him repeatedly that she wanted to take her time. Nothing wrong in dating but I think in Korea if you date, even for a minute, marriage is an automatic consideration. Based on the dramas I've seen you don't just date for fun like in America.

Dan is finally realizing she doesn't love Dr Psycho and won't be loving him any time soon. Better to realize that now, before their big engagement party..

Rat Jerky? OMG, I actually pictured jerky from a rat....




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I can see that saying DP "led on" the psycho doc was probably too strong a statement. There's no question that psycho doc was RUSHING things from the beginning.

Guess what I meant was that if a girl is not into a guy, from the beginning, or just wants to be friends, then the guy should pick up on that & not RUSH the relationship. And, as we all know, DP was NOT into the psycho doc ever!!

I agree...that look on psycho doc's face at the end was SCARY but I still think that BH will get the burnt of the doc's RAGE, not DP!! I'm just glad that she FINALLY decided to end things, rather then go along with her parents' wishes!!

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DP and Dr are both guilty of disrespecting each other. Dr. was blindly in love with DP and couldnt recognize or wouldn't accept her hesitations and only read her actions (pleasant voice on the phone when he would call, dates, meals with parents, etc) from the eyes of, "I love you so you must love me too". DP on the other hand has dragged out her true feelings and has given Dr. mixed messages and as much as I don't see these two as a lasting couple, I don't think it was right that she has used Dr. in her attempts to avoid acknowledging her attraction to BH.
Ji's, don't see me as a woman right now, was a polite way of saying, I like your company and will enjoy doing things with you but right now my heart contains a piece of my old love, Seonjae. Even in her pain, Ji still has class and compassion. She, although timid, is a fine young woman.
Since Mr. Bonjour's first wife died and the ritual is for the anniversary of her death (which we are to assume Donji had nothing to do with) why would it be difficult for her to prepare the rite? It would seem like an act of love for her husband and an honoring of her step-daughter. Perhaps Granny knows this and doesnt want Dongi to gain any positive ground with the family. I wonder when they are going to show us the reason for her deep hatred of Donji and BH. It will certainly answer a lot of questions.
Do you forsee Sonja quietly returning to Russia to nurse her ailing father thus opening the door for Dalheon and Maie's reconciliation? Considering the young boy, it would be the best thing to do. IMO
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I'm with curly carrot on her assessment re Dr. Creep and Danpung. The problem with Danpung is so tries so hard to tell herself she will be okay with the doctor (because he has the education that matches hers?) and not with Baekho, who never even went to the university. On top of that, she couldn't even say NO to her parents who goes out to dinner with creep's mother to discuss her engagement. She keeps on going ahead with the plans with them. But still, I don't feel sorry for the creep - he is a real creep. He did push the whole issue - but DP should have said something firm - a big NO!!

I bet creep would turn around and blame Baekho for DP's decision - or, he might turn around and approach the parents. He knows very well DP can't say anything when her parents, especially her father, says something.

Forget Sua!! She's worse than the doctor! She and Songjae deserve each other.

I feel bad for Miae tho' - she is expecting a reconciliation with ex husband but looks like it may never happen; unless Sonya finds out their relationship and she might give Dallyeon up!!
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they have built Sonya's character to be one of kindness and compassion so if they keep with that characterization then when she finds out the connection between them, she will/or should find a way to bow out especially if she knows that Maie wants to reconcile.
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You know, reading all the posts something occurred to me. Maybe Dan tried even harder to accept Dr Psycho because she was already feeling an attraction to Baekho and that was NOT acceptable to her. Maybe her inner self was just running away from what she is starting to feel for Baekho.

They had that little incident in the car a while back when her and Baekho both started to turn and get something from the back seat. Their faces were like an inch (at the most) apart and they just stared at each other.

Then there was the freezer incident. Dan finds out that Baekho practically stripped naked to cover her up and she remembers him saying those things to her.

And finally, when Baekho got drunk he grabbed her and hugged her, telling her he loved her and begging her not to marry Psycho. Dan didn't pull away from Baekho then. But she sure pulled away quick when Psycho hugged her!


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Maie a shallow self seeking woman who abandoned her husband and child (putting them into sleeping in bath houses) to seek her life in show biz. Only after she found out that her talent equalled her compassion (zero) did she become interested in reconcilliation. She might have sent the music box (a very nasty act meant only to cause harm), but it doesn't excuse the money she took from Sua.

I hope sonja and Maie's ex get together once they do it won't belong befor Maie forgets about visitation and just goes about her own life. Why should Sonji be the fall guy here?

Maie, like Jerk and Doc, is on my hate list!
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From the beginning of time men have been the pursuers and women the ones with the responsibility to either say 'yes' or 'no.' I lay the problem equally at Dan's feet. I think she did lead him on by the message her actions (and lack of actions) clearly telegraphed to him. She might have hemmed and hawed a few times, but she never seriously discouraged him from pursuing the idea of marriage. Plus, she did want—on some level—to marry him. Now she's changed her mind. I have no criticism of her clarifying her feelings and realizing it will never work with Hyeonu.

My only criticism (if it can be called that) is that Hyeonu is painted as a crazy, psycho creep, while Dan is the poor victim. I think they are both at fault. He tried too hard to corral her and lock her up as "his," and she didn't take the responsibility to clearly tell or show him where she stood and that he should seriously back off.

usfkman, thanks for your concise review of Miae's history. You said it all in a nice, neat little package.

I hope Dalhyeon gets together with Sonya, but I think it's kind of impossible for two reasons: 1) K-writers are big on reuniting families; and 2) Sonya is a foreigner (although Gukhwa in PIH was, too).

On Mansu's deceased wife's memorial, I think it is insulting to Dongji to be asked to prepare and celebrate it. She's not his concubine or mistress, after all—she's his wife. If circumstances within the Bonjour household were different (meaning Granny), then I could see Dongji perhaps generously offering to do the prep—and she probably would do it happily. Even Seonjae's mother commented to Dongji recently that Granny has "not accepted you yet." I feel Granny's insistence on Dongji doing the memorial cooking, etc., is nothing more that Granny telling Dongji that she's only a household servant. Wife #1 is more important.

I agree completely with Mansu wanting to celebrate Sua's mother's memorial in a temple. He is showing respect to both his deceased wife and to Dongji. If Granny had an ounce of decency she would see that and respect it, too.

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