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nchristi
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Re: K-Drama: 미우나 고우나 (Likable or Not)
I don't think Seonjae is blinded by money—or anything else, yet. Tastes genuinely change in people. Nothing to condemn them over. Since men are generally judged by the size of their wallets (by many women, I might add), who can blame them for considering financial possibilities? That's a major part of the "conditions" Koreans (and every other culture) look for in marriage connections.
At least Seonjae is trying to be honorable. Sure, the thought of exploiting the situation with Bonjour Foods crossed his mind, but he dismissed it and made a decision to go forward with Jiyeon. However, if he is turned on by Sua's sizzle, it is better he recognizes it before he enters marriage with Jiyeon. I have no idea which one he will end up with, but as others have commented previously, there isn't much chemistry between Seonjae and Jiyeon—but there's plenty between him and Sua.
I am thoroughly turned off by the Sua character in her present form. But if she were a real person, I'd have to say that she's very lonely and crying out over her mother's death and the lack of boundaries set and enforced for her since then. She found she had power and uses that to insulate herself. But she is not happy. I'm sure all this will change, with Seonjae representing what Sua wants most (love), yet her tactics simply do not work on him. class blockquote But , the character I like the least is Beakho. Pali, maybe we should insert an "L" in his name! 
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11/29/2007, 11:24 am
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How come Sua has lots of money?? Buying a car, the painting. She does not even work. I know she is the daughter of Bonjour's Pres. but does she get an allowance from her Dad or her mean Grandmother???
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11/29/2007, 12:45 pm
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Hello Family 
This one is harder to watch than I'd like, but watch it I do. I keep hoping it'll improve and it probably will.
Nchristi, I'm with you on the Seonjae/Jiyeon relationship. He seems to have become more mature than she has and may have different goals than he did in college. Nothing at all wrong with that. He has a right to pursue the lifestyle he wants. She seems to be happy in the status quo. She's an adorable, nice girl, from a traditional, but simple family. He may have outgrown her and their relationship.
Is he going to go after the Bonjour fortune?? Time will tell. It may just be that Sua turns his head, regardless of what she has to offer in the way of financial success for him. We'll see. Right now I see her the same as most of you, a terrible, rude brat, who doesn't have a modicum of what constitutes good manners. She may change over time with a little affection and attention from him, when she sees her little pouting and whining thing doesn't work for him. What am I saying?? May change?? Of course she's going to change. This is Kdrama.  I think with the right behavior and different strategies she may win him over.
Poor Jiyeon. She's so looking forward to meeting the parents. I wonder how he's going to get out of it. He hasn't been thrilled from the beginning in having her meet them, but since the lunch with Sua he's really wavering. I feel sorry for Jiyeong, but she may just be too safe for him. It seems like their best times are behind them. There really is no spark between them. She's just sat around on her laurels and hasn't really moved forward and kept up with him, career-wise. I think he simply wants more out of life than she does and I think he's just coming to the realization. Again, I don't blame him. He has the right to the future he sees for himself. I just hope that he's kind to her, if he lets her down.
Baekho, I'm starting to think he's mentally impaired. Nobody's that annoyingly stupid. I agree, he's probably got a heart of gold, but a little common sense would go a long way for him. How he's still acting like such a buffoon, at a job that was handed to him on a silver platter, is beyond me. He should be so grateful to Mansu, that he should be working to his best potential to show his gratitude. Or maybe that is the best he can do. I still think he's Mansu's son and I also think, he'll eventually prove himself, by some fluke, but in the meantime I have lost patience with him and his idiotic actions.
I don't get why Dongji would give up an okay life to marry Mansu either. What's the point of a marriage where you're at the mercy of a terrible mother in law and a stepdaughter who could use a course at Emily Post? She saw it coming. His mother made it very clear early on how she'd be treated. Why do it? Seems to me, I may be wrong, that they've already done the deed years ago. I think that's where Baekho comes from. Mansu wanted this marriage so much and I can't fathom why. He comes home to a war zone every night. His mother's in a snit, his daughter's stomping around acting like the disrespectful brat she is. Most meals, everyone gets up and leaves the table in a fury. Did he see this as becoming a happy home, where everyone got along? Is he also mentally impaired. Is it like father, like son? If Baekho is his son.
I'll keep watching for a while in hopes that it'll improve.
Catsister, I haven't seen you post since BB. Good to hear from you. I'm on the east coast too. And no, Mansu is not a stud muffin!!
Later 
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Jongnam and Suky forever!!!!!
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11/29/2007, 3:24 pm
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Whoa...Why so down on Jiyeon? Her career is no less than Sua's who left her studies which means she does not have a college degree. Jiyeon evidently has gone to college and has a wonderful profession as a kind and considerate vet.
Since when does making lots of money or advising people how to invest their money, put a person on a higher plane than another. If Seonjae is so shallow than he should be with someone like Sua who has very little integrity.
As to his leaving Jiyeon behind that is his loss and not hers. Anyway sexual attraction doesn't make a lasting relationship without compassion, kindness and friendship.
I think, there is a lack of imagination by the writers of this show. Just do the tried and true senseless relationships and go for the cheap laughs. That could be the reason Baekho is played as a senseless dunce.
All the characters may go through positive changes, but only because the writers would have them do so because people don't change that much in reality.
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11/29/2007, 5:37 pm
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pali,
Agree with you 100%
It is becomng very hard for me to watch ANY of this drama. It is so irritating. The writers must have something better up their sleeves surely....Well we shall see.
Peg
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11/29/2007, 5:54 pm
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Well, after tonight's episode, this show seems to be inhabited by people who should not be seen eating in public.
Is there some meaning to eating and talking with food spilling out of the character's mouth such as Baekho and his uncle's mouths. I guess, genes will tell.
As far as Jiyeon, the comment was made earlier that Seonjae moved ahead of Jiyeon career wise. My response was to that comment. But also, it seems some think Seonjae and Sua will end up together
because of the sparks flying between them. I don't see the sparks, nor do I think they make a great couple.
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11/29/2007, 10:45 pm
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Good Morning Family
I said i thought Seonjae is seeing his future in a different light now and I think Jiyoeng, though a lovely girl, is starting to look a little tame to him. I meant no slight to her, although she'd be my choice if I were Seonjae, I'm not him. She's a nice girl, but maybe he doesn't want a nice girl anymore. At least we see him feeling some guilt for his duplicity and flip-flopping. He sees where he's heading already.
I don't think he and Sua would make a great couple, but having watched a multitude of Kdramas I can almost write the rest of the Sua/Seonjae scenario myself. And yet I still want to see where this is going. Also Sua plays down her obnoxious behavior a little for his benefit, so he hasn't really seen her at her bratty worst.
I'm still watching this in spite of the unsympathetic characters. Baekho, Dungji, Mansu, Gram, etc. Its the only Kdrama available in that time slot for me, so watch, I will.
Gotta go!
Later
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Jongnam and Suky forever!!!!!
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11/30/2007, 6:23 am
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class blockquote Catsister wrote:
My thoughts on the characters:
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....Miae, Shopaholic Woman and her husband, evil mother-in-law,Sua: These are characters that aren't likable but aren't supposed to be, so I enjoy them (but would not in real life, of course!)...Catsister, it’s too bad that we are 10 episode ahead. It’s not like in PIH where east coast and west coast could talk about the same episode around the same time….
I agree with your comments on most of the characters. I think the writers are still establishing the calibration points for the characters yet( i.e. the extreme behaviors)…….. In PIH, Iceman/Yunhu was SOOO obnoxious at the beginning, He was a “Jijkjikkkee!”!!!!(^ ^ ). And he turned out to be a charmer at the end. And I’m hoping Sua will change for the better too... I actually look forward to scenes between Sua and Seonjae. I feel the sexual tension between them.. …. I think Sua is pretty! They look good together!
Seonjae is trying to do the right thing, but…..Sua is too tempting….I bet a normal guy probably feels pretty good, if a rich, pretty girl is aggressively going after him. What an ego-trip that would be.
Baekho’s mother Dongji….She is pathetic right now. Why did she even answer to Sua’s rude demand? She could’ve said NO when Sua yelled out “Ajumma, give me water!!!” But I think she is about to explode soon(another 20 episodes?). You can see all that penned up anger in her eyes….Like nchristi said, she is rough and tough with her own son. She had kicked him out of the house before, and she didn’t want her rich husband to go easy on him. I’m waiting for the confrontation day(for her to stand up to Granny and Sua)…….. She certainly can scream plenty loud. She did it in Chill Sisters……
It’s frightening to me, that when we know all the codes used by our fellow posters.---.The PIH, BB, LB……
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