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Tushka
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
I missed the first couple of episodes and caught only part of episode 3, 4 & 5. At first I was not going to watch because the new bride really turned me off but the groom is so nice to look at. Once I saw TG with the Prof I was hooked.
Looks like this is going to be fun.
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3/23/2007, 8:46 am
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K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
I love to see grams to preach new bride, she really spoil, only grama could give her hard time, gorgeous groom so wimpy, does not have strength or does not make the relationship worse, so whatever she said, he let her, too bad, they are not living with grams, so I guess it will be still a lot of time for groom to suffer, before this spoil princess to change.
I am still think YH is most handsome than the guys in this show, lost boy and groom are ok, but still they are only second or third, is my feeling, may be someone like YH, will change to be charming later at the end of the show.
I love this show already, even it has k-drama parton, but hey, this is out of reality that's makes it interesting
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3/23/2007, 10:27 am
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
class blockquote smoochie1 wrote:
The thing that I find confusing is, that the groom said that his parents live with an aunt. Now they're calling the oldest woman in the household Gram. Which is it??The "aunt" and "grams" are two different characters. The apartment belongs to Tango Girl (Groomie's aunt). When the car business failed, the rest of the family had no place to go except to move in with Tango Girl. True, the oldest woman in the group is now Grams (Sunim), but Groomie would be correct in saying that his parents live with his aunt, Tango Girl (who is Grams' daughter). At least that's how I understand it.
Speaking of Grams, she and Bubs are a pair, aren't they? I shudder at the prejudice and discrimination they both dump on Muyeong. I'm going to have trouble liking these two.
The cow bone soup... How petty and greedy can you get? They should have put a large bone on a newspaper in the corner and told Grams that was hers! (I've always wondered why the translators use "cow bone" instead of "beef bone"? Americans don't eat "cow;" we eat "beef." Not "pig", but "pork;" not "sheep" but "lamb." Just one of the linguistic oddities in life...)
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3/23/2007, 1:58 pm
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
class p Episode 6 (Thurs) - Deleted Scenes
After LostBoy's (LB) dad tells the uncle to be nice to him, the next scene is Rich Mom pouring herself some wine in the dining room. Eunju (bride) comes down in her nighty, sees Mom drinking. class ul Mom pulls out another goblet and pours some for Eunju. They sit at the table and talk. The doorbell rings. Groomie coming home from springing LostBoy from the slammer and dropping him off at the family's place. While Eunju is getting him some juice, he is alone in their bedroom, looking at the legal documents from the jail situation. Eunju enters and he quickly puts them away... class center *****Rich Mom in her room, reading the newspaper... class ul She puts the paper down and looks at the clock... almost midnight. She wonders about her younger daughter and goes over to Eunhwa's room, finding her asleep at her desk. Mom takes the earbuds out of her ears and puts the half-awake Eunhwa into her bed, covering her. Talking in her sleep, Eunhwa sadly is saying something, something Rich Mom finds disturbing. Mom walks downstairs, stops and looks towards her husband's room.
She listens at her husband's door, then knocks. She is surprised that he answers. She walks in. He is fully dressed and looks like clothing is laid out on his bed. (Can't tell if he's coming or going...) At any rate, they begin arguing. She is more and more upset, while he begins "toying" with her somewhat and laughing at her. My guess is it's the usual face off: She wants to control everything and he resents her excessive meddling in her children's affairs. She says good-night to him and he, laughing and with a smile, politely bows and says good-night, too.
Mom is furious and goes to her room, slamming her door. She is frustrated, talking to herself about her husband. But the scene ends with her questioning what's going on with him. She doesn't really understand him and his responses, it seems. class center *****Prof and his daughter, Jisu, in the car... class ul He is driving her to work. They're both happy, as usual. After he drops her off, he is mildly concerned at something. Maybe that she's growing up, or can't make the decision to marry the rich guy, or maybe that he knows she's carrying the torch for LostBoy. ? class center *****Meongja (LB's mom) in Tango Girl's bedroom.... class ul Meongja slides an envelope of money toward Tango Girl. She adamantly refuses to accept it. MJ apologizes to her sister. In response, Tango Girl teasingly starts "chewing out" her older sister for having ideas (or guilt) that TG doesn't want her to have. TG gets up and leaves for work. class center *****Extra
Yoon Hae-yeong 윤해영 (Tango Girl)
Arirang TV English subbed interview video clip at the press conference:
http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=4a7...98f6d0d2cd08dc3
(Courtesy of Luv of soompi.)
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3/23/2007, 3:22 pm
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class blockquote nchristi wrote:
.....The "aunt" and "grams" are two different characters. The apartment belongs to Tango Girl (Groomie's aunt). When the car business failed, the rest of the family had no place to go except to move in with Tango Girl. True, the oldest woman in the group is now Grams (Sunim), but Groomie would be correct in saying that his parents live with his aunt, Tango Girl (who is Grams' daughter). At least that's how I understand it......Gee, how did you know about the car business, nchristi? I will see Episode 5 tonight and don't know how those folks came to live together.....and that it's Tango Girl's place. They must really be cutting stuff out here in the NYC area......
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3/23/2007, 3:45 pm
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class blockquote maranyc wrote:
Gee, how did you know about the car business, nchristi? I will see Episode 5 tonight and don't know how those folks came to live together.....and that it's Tango Girl's place. They must really be cutting stuff out here in the NYC area......It has been mentioned (obscurely) several times since the beginning episodes that the poor family had a car business/service that failed and they came to live with Tango Girl in her apartment. It's mentioned again in either epi 5 or 6, when mom explains to Muyoung why he has to share a bedroom with his nasty uncle, Bubs.
As for the cuts, it is true that the West Coast edits can be the same or be different from what is cut from East Coast version. Unfortunately, we don't have good resources by which we can compare. I sorely miss being able to read the dialogue from Constable Odo's DailyMotion uploads of PIH. I wish we had that for Sky/Earth, but I just read a post from Constable Odo on Soompi that he is not sure there is enough interest in S/E to bother uploading it. Plus, there seems to be some problems with DailyMotion itself.
Crunchyroll is a pretty good source for watching the full, uncut episodes (better than the KBS VODs), but there are no e-subs. Still, seeing the scenes without understanding the conversation are better than no scenes at all.
Okay, I'm off to do tonight's deleted scenes...
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3/23/2007, 8:19 pm
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class p Episode 7 (Fri) - Deleted Scenes
After the Cow Bone Crisis, Grams is rapidly walking down the street, crying to herself.... class ul Grams rushes by MysteryGrams (MG), who calls out after her. They sit on a park bench, Grams crying her eyes out and complaining about her horrible family. MG lays some words of wisdom on the crying, angry, jealous Grams, and tries to console her. She lets Grams rant on, venting her feelings. But Grams gets worked up again and MG has had enough. "Aigooo..." says MG and begins clicking her tongue at Grams, that she's making a mountain out of very small cow bone molehill. Looks like MG tells her to grow up, in so many words. Grams stops crying and looks offended. She argues back with MG. But MG is very calm. I get the feeling MG is telling Grams she's fortunate to have family and be thankful for what she has. Grams vents some more and they both sit there resigned to what is. class center *****The Prof goes to the tango class.... class ul As he stands outside the studio looking in the studio, he sees only a handful of men students practicing. No Tango Girl. He looks puzzled, then smiles to himself. Meanwhile, TG is working late in her office. Her phone rings. It is Prof.
They banter a little bit then she gets up her courage and asks him something. [I hope we didn't miss seeing her propose marriage to him as she was practicing earlier!] Prof has called her from his car. He sort of jokingly cuts her off right away. He laughs at the conversation and it is ended. Tango Girl is both excited and confused. class center *****Rich Mom and Groomie sitting together in front room.... class ul RM has the table covered with brochures, no doubt to buy a new car. She is thumbing through them while Groomie just sits there. She stops and tells him to choose something. He is surprised and uncomfortable. Looks as though he's telling her he doesn't need a car and she's telling him does for the family's image. He politely objects and prevails. RichMom gathers up the brochures, Groomie gets up and excuses himself. RM smiles as he goes, but afterwards her expression changes... she is not happy.
Groomie goes into his bedroom. Sitting down at the computer, he hears Muyoung's words of accusation from their meeting. class center *****
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3/23/2007, 8:59 pm
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
Good Morning Family 
Thanks, nchristi for sorting the family out for me. So TG is the aunt spoken of and Gram is the "mother" of them all. Take that anyway you like.  Or maybe she's just another Kdrama Gram too involved in family business.  We'll see.
I love TG and the picture of the actress is great. Thanks for that. So far she's my favorite in the show.
The groom is a wimp, but that may change. He seems to be a principled wimp, so we don't know yet how much he'll put up with from his spoiled bride. I don't know if I can put up with another Ilhan. 
The bride's mother is so manipulative in her underhanded and quiet way. The fact that she told her husband, that she promised the couple will live with them a year, but has other plans, bothered me. She knows they can't save enough money to leave in a year. She has no intention of teaching her daughter anything.
One more thing bothered me about her and that's when she said the reason she approved of the marriage was because she expects him to treat her spoiled daughter like a princess. She sees Groom as beneath them and so he should be grateful to be married to that brat. That's what I got from that conversation.
I like the way this is heading. Good writing, good cast. So far, so good. I'm getting into it now. Once I get the names straightened out in my poor brain, I'll be half way home.
Can't wait for Monday. We'll see episode 6. Are we two behind? I think so. Not as bad as it could be. 
Happy watching 
Later 
--- Bizarre Bunch Forever!!!!!!!!
Jongnam and Suky forever!!!!!
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3/24/2007, 5:13 am
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class blockquote nchristi wrote:
......Crunchyroll is a pretty good source for watching the full, uncut episodes (better than the KBS VODs), but there are no e-subs. Still, seeing the scenes without understanding the conversation are better than no scenes at all........nchristi, thanks so much for the heads up on crunchyroll, I just signed up! It is particularly good for me as I can no longer view the VODs at kbs's website for some reason.......
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