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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
Hey, welcome Whytedaisies! I'm glad you're enjoying this drama with us! Please post when you can. It's a good group here.
Ok, I'm really so disappointed in LB for leaving again. At least he wrote his mother a letter first. But it just broke my heart to see how sad she was.
Second, it disappointed me (LB again) that he didn't spend more time with Jisu talking before he left. She will be angry and hurt. I think it will help her make the decision that she cannot be with someone she cannot depend on or trust.
I 100% understand why LB doesn't want to live at home. And he doesn't want to point fingers and cause more family problems. I admire him but I just think he should have been more up front about leaving.
I was glad LB's mother let Grams know how she felt about how LB has been treated in that house.
I was rolling when STUPID BUBS told his mother he was a jerk can you buy me a drink. THis is really a guy that can't see past his own nose. It's all about MEEEEEEEEE with Bubs!
Eunha... I'm so glad Jisu didn't listen to her. Jisu doesn't want to interfer and she does like Eunha but Jisu wanted to see LB anyway last nite and went for it, despite Eunha's 'warning'. That girl (Eunha) has ISSUES. She needs some serious counseling.
I know I'm complaining a lot but some of these people!!! Bridey, Bubs, Sonny, Sonny's snake of a wife, Eunha, RM, Grams... It's like they are just there to make life miserable for the other characters.
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5/16/2007, 5:23 am
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K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
Here is Episode 42, your deleted scenes: but first,
Bubs says to his sister about LB, "your his mother and not my sister?" (what a disgrace he is!) LB heard this while in his room and clenches his fist.
Was there a fight, did LB slug Bubs? Did LB fight Groomie? If there was a fight, it was deleted here by me. Can anyone let me know or what was said? After the fist clench, the next thing we see on the East Coast is Groomie coming back alone:
Dad - What about Muyeong?
TG - Why did you come back alone?
Groomie - I think we should leave him alone for now.
Mom - You should have told us, How did you let uncle know?
Groomie - I'm sorry.
Dad - Where did Muyeong go?
Groomie - He'll be alright.
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next scene:
LB rushes up to Jiung outside:
Jiung - What brings you here at this hr.? LB hesitates...
J - I asked you what you're doing here.
LB - I'd like to see Jisu.
J - It's late. You want to see Jisu now? looks at watch...Do you
have any other intentions?
LB stares at him
J - If she had a boyfriend, he'd misunderstand your relationship.
Why are you still hanging out with her? Aren't you tired of her?
LB looks down
J - Go home. Don't come here at a late hr. again. You'd better not
let me catch you again.
LB bows, walks away
J - If you have other intentions, snap out of it. Jisu can't be your
match.
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next scene:
Jiung comes into house:
J to Jisu - How long are you going to hang out with Muyeong? You're
to good to him.
Jisu - What's wrong with you? What did he do?
J - He came to see you so I sent him home.
Jisu - When?
J - Just now. You...
Jisu runs out
Prof and Jiung's wife come out:
Prof - What's the commotion?
J - You'd better do something about Jisu
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next scene: shows Jisu outside apt. looking for LB. Then back inside:
J - Guard her well. (give me a break)
Prof - Guard her?
J - She's too close to Muyeong.
Prof - They're friends.
J - How can a man and woman be friends? What if something
happens?
Prof - Like what? What are you worried about?
J - She's not a little girl. She should get married. It wouldn't do her
any good to have Muyeong hang around. What if other people
misunderstand?
Prof - You worry too much. turns to walk away
J - You never know about these things. What if she says she wants
to marry Muyeong? He's no match for her.
Prof gives a laugh - Jisu will choose who she wants to marry.
J - Father, are you saying anyone is alright?
Prof - Did she say she was going to marry him? Stop getting ahead
of yourself. Stop worrying and go to sleep. (goes to his room)
troublemaker wife - Good night father. drags J to their room
Prof in room, looking annoyed looking towards the outer room where J is.
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J - Jisu should stop seeing Muyeong.
Wife slaps him - She's not the problem right now. Father and
"TG" are taking dance lessons together.
J - So?
wife - She probably did that to get close to him. She achieved her
goal. She's so sly.
J - She's not like that. I know her.
wife - What do you know about women? She has total control of
Jisu too. (smiling) I'm going to show her that not all of us are
that easy.
J says nothing
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Then we see Jisu finds LB lying down in the park. LB tells her that her brother is worried that he has other intentions. He looks at her and Jisu tells him to ignore him. LB tells her he's her brother. They talk.
LB comes home hugs his mother, she talks nice to him, they both cry. In bed later, LB cries.
next morning:
Mom cooking for LB. She asks him aren't you tired, you worked yesterday.
LB tells her it's the season for moving and that he should work when he can.
His mom tells him to eat well.
LB tells her that her cooking tastes so good today. He smiles at her, she pats his shoulder.
Next scene, he's outside, looking back at the apartment.
Hey, RM wants to have lunch with RDad. Is she having a change of heart pertaining to her husband? RD is so easy going. He would be a good husband for someone who appreciates him.
Bubs is so pathetic, M-Grams is so right in what she said to him. What a mean nasty person he is to LB! He's bound to get his someday. I have no pity for him at all.
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5/16/2007, 9:51 am
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
First order of business, Welcome, whytedaises! We're happy to have you with us and hope to see you often—or as frequently as you are able... 
Second, Thank You, Jasy! It really is nice (and helpful) to know the accurate "deleted" happenings.
Third (episode 42)... class blockquote Jasy asked:
Was there a fight, did LB slug Bubs? Did LB fight Groomie? If there was a fight, it was deleted here by me. Can anyone let me know or what was said? After the fist clench, the next thing we see on the East Coast is Groomie coming back alone:Here's everything from the fist clench to Groomie returning.
Intro to fist clenching
After Bubs runs off to his room and starts throwing everything around, Taesik runs after him to stop him. As LB enters the room to help, Bubs throws Taesik down on the floor and LB puts his arms around Bubs from behind to restrain him. Bubs argues with LB and slaps him in the face. This leads to more cruel words from Bubs towards LB. M-Ja comes in and pushes Bubs out of the bedroom back into the front room when he says more cruel things, like accusing her of loving her adopted son more than she loves her blood brother, Bubs. class ul At this point, LB clenches his fist and starts to leave. Taesik stops him and holds him in the room, silently encouraging him to just relax and take it for now. Out in the front room, Grams and Bubs continue emotionally assaulting M-Ja, who argues back.
LB can't take it any longer and comes out, begins arguing with Grams. LB really tells her off about how he's been treated all his life. Bubs, on the floor, starts laughing, turning LB's words around on him that here is proof what an ingrate he is. (Sorry, I have a headache today and can't recall the dialogue... please, someone else fill in if you recall LB's words).
M-Ja has a major meltdown... not towards someone, but just the situation of this never-ending war of words and horrible treatment from her mother and brother towards LB all his life. She screams at the top of her lungs and cries. LB is hurt to his core seeing this happen to his mother.
Grams, Bubs, M-Ja, Taesik, and LB are all standing around the table in silence as TG and Groomie come home to this horrific aftermath. TG asks what's going on and Grams spews more bile towards M-Ja and LB, causing M-Ja to yell back at her mother to stop. But, of course, Grams can't ever shut her mouth and goes from bad to worse. LB is now at his limit and runs out of the apartment. Groomie runs after him.
M-Ja collapses to the floor crying. Grams looks slightly sheepish, but Bubs starts in with being the victim again and why is everything his fault... yada yada yada... I can't remember if Bubs now is wanting to start hitting on M-Ja (he is stupid drunk) or if he's trying to grab something off the table with which to "kill himself," but Grams wrestles him away and to the floor. TG scratches her head looking back and forth at Bubs & Grams vs M-Ja in meltdown. Taesik and TG tend to M-Ja, while Grams comforts her crying baby.
Outside, Groomie runs after LB, grabbing him by the arm. He listens as LB pours out his feelings, that no matter how hard he has tried he can never be a member of this family... in the end he is always just a stranger taking advantage of their hospitality. Groomie tries to calm him, but realizes it is best to just listen and let LB vent. LB lets it all out then walks away. Groomie does not try to stop him, recognizing LB needs time alone to calm down and clear his mind.
Back in the apartment, M-Grams is still sitting alone in the bedroom with her bag packed, having listened to everything that just went down with this messed up family.
At the table, M-Ja is crying, Taesik is standing looking at her, TG is rubbing and comforting her. Bubs is sitting in his room, his head resting in his hand in misery. Grams is beside him, trying to comfort him. She cries and pleads with him. He begins crying and falls into her arms.
Groomie comes back into the apartment....Okay, what I've written above is one continuous block of the episode. If you saw none of it in your area, then all that was edited out as one cut.
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5/16/2007, 11:26 am
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Thanks so much Nchristi, for the info on the fighting in the house. We would never have known that it got so much worse after LB first went into his room.
I would have loved to see LB tell Grams off! I hope she realizes what she has done.
Your welcome nsheldon, boy, if only they didn't delete anything.
All of this commotion is all because of Bubs. He sees nothing that he has done wrong. And he has all this anger towards LB and I'm wondering why.
I don't know why the father doesn't put him in his place. Why would LB want to continue living there? I wouldn't. I understand though that the family stays together but sometimes it doesn't work.
Bubs already kicked LB out of the bedroom and he gets away with that. He comes home drunk and acts crazy. I would hate to come home to a house like that everyday.
Welcome whytedaises! Yes, I think this show is a good one too. The story could go so many different ways right now.
Nchristi, we saw when LB clenches his fist and his father holds him back and talks to him. That was the last of what we saw on that scene and then Groomie comes back home.
Poor M-ja, she can't take it anymore. I don't blame her. We didn't see her meltdown here. We did see MGrams pack her bag.
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5/16/2007, 12:33 pm
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
class p Episode 44 (Tuesday) - Deleted Scenes
TG comes home from work... class ul She goes into Bubs' room; he's still in bed. She tries to rouse him; he doesn't want to be bothered. She starts seriously getting on his case; Grams enters; Bubs argues. He sits up... they argue more... TG starts "aigoo-ing" him, gets disgusted and leaves the room. Bubs covers himself up with the blankets, back in his misery stew. class center *****Over at RM's home.... class ul RM, Jaedu, and Eunju are having dinner. Looks as though Dad compliments RM on her fine cooking, but don't have a clue about the rest of this scene. It is a discussion that looks like they are in a fencing match of smiling barbs and it ends with Dad drawing the noose around RM, getting up and leaving her sitting there. Eunju has a smile on her face that Dad has just caught Mom in her own trap. RM doesn't like it. Eunju tries to laugh it off but RM won't have any of it and changes the subject... (Maybe it's the issue of him moving back into the master bedroom, but his refusal on the grounds that even Mom's request for this is out of appearances to others...?)
In his study, Dad is reading. In comes Eunju with some tea for him. They discuss RM.
Eunju returns the tray to the kitchen, where RM is finishing up cleaning. Another intriguing conversation. (?) It starts out with Eunju asking her mother something. (Or suggesting she try to do better with Dad?) RM registers some surprise and mentions Appa (EJ's father). Then RM asks something about Groomie. Eunju responds with something really shocking to RM. (?) class center *****At the Nari... class ul M-Ja is setting out the plate of oranges and sweet potatoes for LB. Taesik encourages her to go on home. He stays behind, waiting for LB, with a concerned look on his face. class center *****Outside in the dark somewhere.... class ul LB hears M-ja's pleading voice in his mind... probably her concern that he never leave her again without telling her.
Cut to Eunha studying in her bedroom...
She picks up her cellphone to call LB, but changes her mind. (Next scene is Taesik reading newspaper in Nari, waiting for LB...) class center *****M-Ja and Grams have their big argument in the kitchen (Why don't you just say you're glad LB's gone...)... class ul TG comes in, Grams leaves, then TG leaves the kitchen, too. Groomie has come home from work and apparently overheard what was said in the kitchen. TG sees him there, he says nothing... just leaves. TG follows him. Outside, with TG standing behind him, Groomie places a call to LB. At the station, LB looks at his phone and sees it is Groomie calling. He stands there momentarily without answering. The episode ends... class center *****Previews... class ul class li Looks like RM meets with marriage broker class li Jisu finds out LB has gone class li Groomie meets with M-Grams in a restaurant. She's in fancy duds. He's surprised... class center *****
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class blockquote Jasy wrote:
I don't know why the father doesn't put [Bubs] in his place. Why would LB want to continue living there? I wouldn't. I understand though that the family stays together but sometimes it doesn't work.Unfortunately, Bubs is the highest ranking male of this household. He's the firstborn (and only) son. Taesik is his brother-in-law, so he doesn't have any authority over Bubs. In fact, only Grams would as the elder of the family.
I agree completely about families not working out sometimes. One of the best gems of advice I ever received was "Surround yourself by people who make you feel good about yourself." I pay my dues to my blood relatives and keep all ties well-connected as far as I can, making myself a Roman when in Rome (for peace and harmony and my own sanity). Then I return to my real, positive world. One elderly woman suggested that some family trips "home" are best viewed as your annual cold... It's unpleasant but it lasts only a few days and then your life returns to normal. 
Unfortunately for LB, M-Ja said it all: There is no place in this world for him to settle. And that's what he must do for himself now. Find his way in life and settle. Only then can he return to any place that might be "home." class blockquote
Nchristi, we saw when LB clenches his fist and his father holds him back and talks to him. That was the last of what we saw on that scene and then Groomie comes back home.Yes, I realized that. The reason I included the background (intro material) is for the benefit of other members and readers, to easily enable them to put it into context. When I answer questions or do summaries, I try to frame it to be helpful to all, including the specific person who posed the question.
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5/16/2007, 1:17 pm
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I am resurfacing (too busy watching this and I just finished Full House on Youtube and participating in that forum too) but I have a question:
I hear Eunha address Lost Boy as AGASSIE or AGASHIE and I also heard her address Jisu as such. Now I kknow that AJUSSI is Mr and Ajuma is Mrs so what the heck is AGASSIE or AGASHIE?
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