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pali
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K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
In most Asian countries where Confucius is a major belief system, the family and elders were the most revered. That is why in most Asian countries, the family structure is the most important element in Society.
It is not only in Korea which still has feudalist influences where adoption is not looked upon favorably.
Also, many Korean women who have had children by American servicemen were not married which caused many problems. This is true in other countries especially Viet Nam. But, also, America has similar problems, but it is kept quiet.
As to inter marriage several reasons weigh in. One is that many young people (many women) leave the countryside and small villages for the cities and a better life. So the farmers have been forced to look for brides to bear children and work the farms in other Asian countries. Secondly, the children of many Koreans who move to Western countries will inter marry, but not necessarily leave their culture behind.
I do not find the young married couple so distasteful. Also, the rich mother is not so atypical.
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4/9/2007, 5:02 pm
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
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I'm sure it was said earlier in the series, but I don't recall...when was LB brought into the family? (age) and what is the age difference between the two brothers?I think LB was adopted when he was just a baby - he said he only remember shapes of his parents' faces. LB and Ji-su should be in the same age level - 20's? He is probably same age with Rich Girl (whose character I don't like that much because she is too aggressive).
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4/9/2007, 10:47 pm
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K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
The bride and groom are both 28. Jisu and LB are both 24 and the rich young sister is 20.
I think Nasty Face Bride is very disrespectful of her husband and his family. We all know or should know that when we marry, we also marry our mate's family. More so in other cultures.
Where does Nasty Face come off thinking she gets her guy and then can push away his family? That is very distasteful. I don't think most of us would like that to happen to us.
It doesn't seem like Groomie won the top prize with her and her family either.
Mom treats Groomy like he's beneath her. Actually Rich dad seems like a good guy and I like him. Bridey needs some growing up to do.
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4/10/2007, 4:27 am
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
every human has the desire to be loved and I believe parents especially desire to be loved by their children. Although we have the capacity to share our love with more than one individual, it is human to fear the loss of love from our children due to a variety of causes and in the case of our drama family, "step-mom" must carry with her insecurities about her "step-childrens love and devotion for her and thus she feels threatened by the bio-mom. considering the asian culture family values, I tend to not be so condeming of bio-moms return into her birth childrens lives, however, i believe she shouldn't be living with the family and should only be making herself available to her children should they desire to visit with her.
LB and groomies parents seem so caring and loving, I can't imagine they showed any favoritism to either of the boys which would, if they had, explain some of groomie's hesitations about his adopted brother. Or perhaps groomie is so conventional that the idea of having an adopted brother makes him feel less in society. (he already is from a poor family and this only adds to his lower conditions)
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4/10/2007, 8:46 am
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
Had to laugh about Rich Boy Friend--they dumped him really fast. Sent him to the US, with no airport scene!  Maybe they'll bring him back if stuff doesn't work out with LB.
I so hope that LB doesn't end up with Rich Girl (Eunha). She's awful. Don't know what her problem is, but yuck.
In fact, last night was fairly yuckey all the way around. BioMom is milking the situation for all it's worth (I still think she's dying, so this is her last hurrah, and then she'll leave her fortune to M-ja. What I really don't like is that she stayed away for, what, over 30 years?) Step-Mom has a right to be upset (although she's sure an unpleasant person--high maintenance for sure). Then, we had wonderful  Rich Mom. Her husband just ignores her. Didn't you just love the part where she said she'd trust LB if he was really Groomie's brother?
Have to say that Kim Ja ok usually plays her part so well that I just really, really dislike her. So far, she's right on with this one--I really, really dislike her.
Then, there's Jisu's brother! What a dork! If it doesn't have $$$$, forget it. Wonder what his wife is like? How could he have the same father as Jisu???
All in all, just an unpleasant episode. Prof wasn't in even one scene.
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4/10/2007, 10:10 am
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
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LB and groomies parents seem so caring and loving, I can't imagine they showed any favoritism to either of the boys which would, if they had, explain some of groomie's hesitations about his adopted brother. quote]
In Monday night's episode LB/Groomie's Mom lights up when she's with LB. She seems to beem with love every time she sees LB. And, she explained they never changed LB last name because they always believed his real parents would come back. LB may feel like an outsider but I think he knows his Mom loves him no matter what.
Also, looks like LB and Bio Mom may form a bond. I hope so. They both are lonely outcast.
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4/10/2007, 11:12 am
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Re: K-Drama: 하늘만큼 땅만큼 (As Much As Heaven and Earth/High as the Sky, Wide as the Earth)
Well, I'm all for Muyeong (LB) and Jisu together. What I'm afraid of is Eunha becoming one of those horribly clingly, sick types that will rope LB into being with her out of guilt and her pathetic, "weak" state.
That unbearable whining!  She'll probably stop eating and RichMom, as a last resort, will bring in LB to bring poor little Eunha back to life.
Bubs is a real gem, isn't he? At least he's honest and nobody has to guess where he stands!
I wonder if part of Groomie's feelings toward LB is that their mother may have favored LB in her affections. Perhaps Groomie grew up feeling a little resentment over his mother's affection for LB. As she said last night, LB is "the cute one" who must/will always remain "cute." It seems that she has a very special affection for him that we don't see her express towards Groomie. Groomie would always be loyal intellectually to his family (including LB), but that might explain his lack of emotional affection for LB. Plus, they were always at odds—and still are. They can't even have a conversation without both of them instantly bristling up.
nsheldon, you didn't miss a whole lot. Here are some highlights (in random order)...
M-ja waited for LB; they had an affectionate walk 'n' talk. He asked why they didn't change his name to "Kim," she said they thought his parents would come back for him.
Bridey questioned Groomie about his feelings for LB, that he doesn't really feel in his heart that they are brothers; that he (Groomie) is in for trouble now because Eunha couldn't be with her brother-in-law (socially improper), but since LB isn't blood related, he's fair game.
RichMom met with Groomie, telling him it is his responsibility to keep LB away from Eunha—especially since LB is not blood related, RM cannot trust him. She wants Groomie to make LB change to a different academy. Groomie said he can't do that. RichMom puts a guilt trip on him that he should be looking out for his sister-in-law (Eunha), not his non-brother LB.
Dad tells RichMom she takes little things and makes big problems out of them. RM accuses her husband of being unconcerned about Eunha and her delicacy. Dad says she's only delicate because RM made her that way. Instead of letting her adapt to whatever happened in school (?), RM took her out and transferred her to a different school. Dad tells RM she should have let their daughter adjust on her own.
After work, LB doesn't go to the academy. He's sitting on a bench at the river. He looks at his phone. Call after call from Eunha. He puts his phone down and it rings again. It is Groomie, but LB doesn't look at the caller, he just leaves it on the bench—probably assuming it is just another call from Eunha.
Meanwhile, Eunha is sitting in front of the academy, hunkered down on her heels, waiting for LB to come. He doesn't. Groomie walks up, sees her there. She gets worked up about LB not coming to the academy, nor answering her calls. She is in a panic, "Oh what will I do...." type hysteria. She begs Groomie to call him. He tells her he already tried but LB isn't answering his calls, either. She begs GR to call home and see if LB is there. Groomie already has done that, too. LB left early in the morning for work.
Rich Boy Friend has quit his company, turned it over to one of his relatives and gone to the States. Jisu is upset at hearing the news. TangoGirl calls Bridey and gets the low-down on if it's true; Bridey is the one who give TG
the details.
Jisu, upset, is walking. She ends up at her brother's cafe. He wants her to get together with RBF, of course. She tells him if he doesn't stop talking about it, she'll leave. Then she asks her brother how he feels about their father getting married. He doesn't like the idea because a wife and possible children will spend Prof's money. Jisu is disgusted that her brother cares only about money.
Grams and M-grams eating in the cafe with M-ja and Taesik. The grams start arguing their usual bickering. Grams gets called out for an evening babysitting job. After she leaves, M-ja gets really upset with M-Grams for saying things that upset Grams. "You've been here for a while... you should know by now what upsets her." M-ja yells at M-Grams that she's not considering what she's doing to the rest of them by causing this trouble.
M-Grams feels sad and says she shouldn't cause trouble, so she is leaving. Taesik goes running after her. They go had a drink together. She confesses a "secret" to him: she has known about all of them for the last year. She couldn't just show up, so she deliberately made friends with Grams. He says she can't let Grams know that. "That's why it is a secret," replies M-Grams. She thanks Taesik for treating her as his mother-in-law.
Bubs comes home to an empty apartment, calling his greeting to his mother. M-Grams comes out of the kitchen instead. She explains Grams is out babysitting and she has cooked pollack soup for him. Bubs rejects her. He will wait for his "mother" to come home before he eats. M-Grams tells him it isn't healthful to eat late, but Bubs won't accept M-Grams acting as a mother to him.
M-Grams says she heard he will be leaving soon for the States. Can't she even cook a meal for him? He coldly tells her off, that she should have come years ago, not now. He also harshly says to her that she shouldn't be living here taking advantage of Tango Girl. He goes to his room, leaving M-Grams crushed.
In his room, Bubs is angry, talking to himself about blood attracting blood—but he doesn't have any feelings of "blood" attraction to her... he has no memories of her at all.
M-Grams leaves the apartment and goes walking in the night. She sees LB standing forlornly in front of a building, then he walks away. M-Grams follows him. He stops at what looks like a small outdoor game arcade. There is a machine where you slug a pad as hard as you can. She watches as LB does this a few times, obviously using it to dispel his anger and frustration. She walks up to LB. They greet one another. The episode closes with her making a comment to him that they both have reasons to have such feelings.
Well, that's all I remember...
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