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Just how important and significant Bong-gi's references to "Paul's Miraculous Adventures" were...

this is the cover of the DVD set for "Paul's Miraculous Adventures":

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now look at the side of the box...isn't that a dog and a duck there? So ingenious of RRLY's writer! Remember Bong-soon's dog (maybe even Soo-kyung's reference to Bong-gi as Mr. Dog)? and Bong-mi?

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and isn't that a teddy bear?

from tatsunoko.co.jp:

PAUL'S MIRACULOUS ADVENTURE
50 thirty-minute episodes. Paul is a young boy whose friend Nina is kidnapped by Beltoran, the demonic ruler of another world. He daringly goes on a risky expedition to rescue his playmate. Pakkun, a plush doll with magic powers, aids him as they plunge into Beltoran's dimension of living toys. Paul's journey is beset by many difficulties, but he also encounters a variety of delightful wonders.

you can go here to watch the OP of "Paul's Miraculous Adventures" (also includes screenshots from the anime):
http://blog.empas.com/satgaram/read.html?a=11853329

this is the revision of a previous post I made, after completely watching the final episode: class blockquote ...he is certainly undergoing quite the transformation into a mature responsible adult from the mouthy, profligate, looked down on by coworkers goof-off that he started the show as.I don't think it's a transformation, since the real him--that side of him exhibited by his concern for Bong-soon, as well as Hyo-won, has always been hidden under this cover of the "the mouthy, profligate, looked down on by coworkers goof-off" we've witnessed from the beginning episodes. A better word for what is happening to Bong-gi is the unmasking of the disguise he's kept up for goodness knows how long. He has close to perfecting his technique, but even from the first episode, he has made slips revealing his inner self:

[1] There was Mr. Nam, standing on the side of a dirt road in the Presidential residence after exchanging comments with the Chef Ahjumma. He sees a procession of black sedans heading his way. He knows the occupants of the cars and proceeds to lower his head, bowing. Then ever so slightly he glances up, identifies Director Lee in one of the vehicles, and immediately puts his head down again, knowing who would be passing by next--his son.

Indeed, as his head lowered once again, Bong-gi, in the passenger seat of one of the vehicles spots his dad. He quickly raises his arm and looks the other way, but as the car passes by, Bong-gi watches with a pained expression, the receding figure of his father, whose head is still lowered, from the passenger side-view mirror.

After viewing episode 7, I believe the reason behind this particular pained expression of Bong-gi comes from his feeling that he hasn't been a good filial son. Why? Recall that Bong-gi comments that what he was doing for the old man [the smelly old man who came to visit the Presidential residence]--washing/bathing him would be considered filial if he had done it for his dad. And then towards the end of the same episode, we witness father and son, pretending not to know each other, while the dad is being cleared to go into the President's office to fix the lights. Bong-gi takes up his dad's ladder and voluntarily carries it for him.

Bong-gi's neglect/unconcern for his father is likely the result of his mother's death. Think about it. If Bong-gi wasn't mad at him mom for waiting for him in the cold rain, he wouldn't have walked on ahead, and she wouldn't have to confront the bad guys on her own. By Bong-gi attempting to be unconcerned for his father's welfare, his father can be protected from his own son.

Notice that as the drama was drawing towards its end, Bong-gi and his father's bond was much stronger than at the start. With Ji-soo leaving, Bong-gi is again reminded of that you only know how important that person is to you once they are gone. He's already lost his mom, and for the past 10 years, his mom's death has been haunting him, so that he did not completely notice that his dad was there and needed him as well.

[2] On the train heading toward Chulsan or Kang-won-do where he was to escort, or rather, bring the Dr. back, Bong-gi, smiling, is in the process of taking out the Jeju Island vacation tickets when his Presidential Guard ID falls/flies out of his pocket. He quickly reaches out into aisle and snaps it up, fear written all over his face at the thought of losing it.

From episode 1, it seems as if Bong-gi doesn't take his job seriously when he hit on the girl who didn't have an invitation to see the Police Acadamy graduation, but yet in the scene above, what the ID card represents suggests that being a Presidential Guard means much more than something he can use to hit on girls with. And it's much more than being embarrassed in episode 4 when he reports his ID card missing and the entire Presidential staff calling the one to lose the card an idiot. As we will learn, Bong-gi, went against his father's wishes, and chose to become a Presidential Guard, because of his mom. His mom's death prompted his decision to become a bodyguard. He lost his mom when he was 18, ten years since then, and he's still haunted by the events of her death. By being a Presidential Guard, he's tormenting himself, forever reminded what he didn't do that fateful night, and as a guard, it's what is required of him, that he can't run away from.

Just like Joon-won who made it appear he had a semblance of control over his life, making up to what he felt deficient as the President's son, so does Bong-gi made it appear that nothing in the world could bother him, when deep down he sees himself as his mom's murderer. He hadn't gotten over that.

And he originally took out his anger on Bong-soon...why? Bong-soon was a representation of Bong-gi's failure to his mom. And she was someone he didn't fully know well. We will learn that there are 3 times of the year when he will go crazy--his mom's birthday, her memorial day, and his birthday.His first encounter with Bong-soon happened 4 days before his mom's memorial. Two days before his mom's memorial, Bong-soon hides his ID card, her intention to get in him trouble. The day before his mom's memorial he finds his ID missing and comes rushing back to get it. He had vowed he wouldn't return there, but he did it anyways for the ID card--for what it represents. That moment, as he was lying on the ground of her home, exhausted after not being able to find it, Bong-gi was completely defeated in mind. He had let his mom down.

Even though he was taking out his anger on Bong-soon, it's percievable that he did show some type of concern for her, especially when he didn't really know her. In episode 2, in his own crude way, he brings up the topic of her dreams. Then, in a later episode, it wasn't required of him, but he suggests that if she wants to enter the Presidential residence to request at the homepage for a tour. Of course he doesn't explain to her what homepage is.

And if asked when I feel that Bong-gi fell for Bong-soon...I would say it would have to be around episode 6. There was Bong-gi singing the theme song to the anime "Paul's Miraculous Adventures" and then he asks himself what Paul or one of the other characters would think of Bong-soon. And that's when he started seeing her as the girl from the 4th-dimension. Even in the scene where the "homepage" comes up, his final utterances had something to do with "Paul's Miraculous Adventures." Bong-gi associated Bong-soon with a happy moment in his childhood. I think he even saw himself as Paul. Man, I wish we could see this anime, to maybe understand Bong-gi's references better. And just like Joon-won, Bong-gi had fallen for Bong-soon because of her attitude and spirit. As the drama went on, with her involvement with Joon-won and her mother, the Bong-soon he knew wasn't there and that's why Bong-gi keeps telling her to get over her "bird flu". He wants the Bong-soon he met in the country to be back.


Well, would you know it...I've placed an order for the complete boxset of "Paul's Miraculous Adventures" (it was pretty cheap...$12.59 for the entire box set and supposedly included an english audio track, it's gone out of stock after I placed the order). I'm hoping to gain more insight to Bong-gi with this =)

Should anyone be interested in purchasing the 3 separate volumes, it is also available at Yesasia, however, it's entirely in Japanese:

Paul's Miraculous Adventures Vol 1
Paul's Miraculous Adventures Vol 2
Paul's Miraculous Adventures Vol 3

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Hopefully RRLY fans haven't forgotten that Eugene and Lee Min Ki will be on this Tues (Oct 3)'s Come to Play episode, after Jumong, here in SoCal.

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class blockquote creidesca wrote:
Hopefully RRLY fans haven't forgotten that Eugene and Lee Min Ki will be on this Tues (Oct 3)'s Come to Play episode, after Jumong, here in SoCal.
Thanks for the reminder!

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In case...also watch tonight's MBC Entertainment news (airs Mondays after Jumong if I'm not wrong)...I believe there should be a segment on Minki's debut movie, if the SoCal MBC Ent News is only a week behind that of Korea's airing.

edit: it might be next week's MBC Ent News in SoCal, not this week's because I see a segment on the actor portraying "Wootae" on Jumong getting married.

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Do you know the title for Minki's debut movie?

Thanks for the info creidesca and bubu13, my son likes Min Ki

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class blockquote creidesca wrote:

Hopefully RRLY fans haven't forgotten that Eugene and Lee Min Ki will be on this Tues (Oct 3)'s Come to Play episode, after Jumong, here in SoCal.
Thanks again creidsca, WE'RE WATCHING IT NOW!

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ugh...the good material was all cut out from the Come to Play...

I'll try to post screencaps and some translations of articles to the good materials cut from the episode sometime tomorrow

Maybe I should create a Min Ki thread here at CJK too?

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class blockquote creidesca wrote:

ugh...the good material was all cut out from the Come to Play...

I'll try to post screencaps and some translations of articles to the good materials cut from the episode sometime tomorrow

Maybe I should create a Min Ki thread here at CJK too?
THanks a lot creidesca. Min Ki still looked the same, the other lady who was obsessed with the guard looked slightly different but I think that was the hair.

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what was missing from last night's airing of Come to Play, here in SoCal:

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DL 7min44sec clip: http://www.sendspace.com/file/g7t8ji

Eugene (25 yrs) & Lee Min Ki ( 21 yrs), the truth of the scandal is exposed.

On the “Come to Play” both had clarify the much talked about kissing scene in the sauna in ep 34, where Eugene had called Lee Min Ki, his real name, instead of Bong Ki, which had caused many to be suspicious whether true love had blossomed.

Unknown to many except the two, the director had specially requested the scene, hence, both had to follow his instruction so that the filming of the last scene will be completed smoothly.

LMK : Noona ( elder sister), had informed me secretly and putting me in tight situation, as other staffs were oblivious to it.

Eugene : Younger brother is 4 yrs younger than me. Very young.

LMK: Not 4 but 3 yrs difference only. Not a wide gap, but only slightly younger. Age difference in this earth seem to be a big issue, but in actual fact it is no issue at all.

In the last scene of RRLY in the jjim-jil-bahng (sauna)...EUGENE BLURTED LMK'S REAL NAME in protest to that last kiss. It was the director's idea to have the two of them play out the Epilogue (that last little scene at the end) as an ad lib; for the epligoue, he wanted to show the Bong-Bong couple naturally, and so he told them in advance to do whatever they wanted and run with it. When co-host/MC Kim Won-hui asked "couldn't you have just said no, you didn't want to do it? why didn't you?" to which Bada replied "the Eugene I know wouldn't object to something like that."

so ep. 34 of RRLY ended with the FIRST kiss in the jjim jil bahng, which was also the end of the script. notice how there was a slight pause after their lips touched? the part after that is what they called the "epilogue" - that was the part where the director told them to do whatever they want. he wanted the 2 of them to just act naturally. so the part where they're both on the floor and then they get up and start peering through the little window, and that surprise kiss at the end when Eugene yells LMK's name - that was all real and unscripted. LMK even explains in the "Come to Play" episode that Eugene had no idea what he was going to do; he was just acting in the moment.

"Trying to subside the rumors about the 2 of them, Eugene said "LMK is much younger than me in age", to which LMK quickly interjected "I'm not THAT much younger" - once again stirring up some curiousity."

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LMK's "early" birthday, is in Jan. 1985. But because he had an early b-day he also started school early. His classmates were those who were born in '84. Because of this he never quite felt comfortable hanging out as friends with people his own year ('85), even though he was fine having a hyung-hubae relationship with those younger than him ('86). So he would tell people his own year to call him "hyung".

As such, when they first started the drama, Yoon Ji Hoo [Moonshik] thought LMK was older than him and would call him "hyung". When he found out that they were technically the same year, he started using more familiar words and because they started getting to know each other and becoming better friends. However, once LMK did pull him aside quietly and ask him "When we're in public, though, please call me 'hyung'"

sidenote: Yoon Ji Hoo's b-day is July 29...which happens to be BK's b-day :P

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Min Ki is asked to catwalk/do his runway walk.

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"Why did Bada give LMK her cell phone # without him knowing?"

Singer Bada was recently invited as a guest to the MBC studios for a taping of Yoo Jae-suk and Kim Won Hui’s show "Come to Play", along with the LMK, Eugene, and Lee Young-ja (creidesca thinks this is the pink cap ahjuma) whose MBC drama RRLY ended 6 days ago.

During the taping of the show, Bada gave LMK a copy of her cd as a present. Inside the cd, however, was her private cell phone # written on a piece of paper. When the other cast members/guests pressed her about this, she explained "I just meant it as a 'I’d like to get to know you better as a hubae (younger brother)' b/c he’s so cute (as a younger brother)."

At this, former SES co-member Eugene said "No wonder Bada’s been suddenly calling me more often since our drama started airing." emoticon

However, it’s said that LMK’s heart belongs elsewhere. Upon persistent questioning by the MCs on whether or not he likes Eugene, he replied "yes, I like her."

They asked him "Out of everyone here in this room, who (which woman) do you like the most?" His reply, "Eugene." Then they asked Eugene about their 4 years age gap/difference. (In an effort to shorten the age gap difference) she said that they actually had an early birthday AND by the lunar calendar they were only 3 years apart.

Bada, and the cd she gave LMK with her phone # inside... during the episode Bada admits that "at first, she started watching RRLY b/c of Eugene, but b/c she's a woman too, she continued to watch it b/c of the male actors... in particular, b/c of LMK." As soon as the words were out of her mouth, MC/host Yoo Jae-suk added "Every time LMK would appear in a scene, you felt that you were taping a scene in the drama, too, didn't you?" which subsequently made everyone in the studio laugh.

As Bada gave LMK her cd which she had been sitting on throughout the taping of the show, Eugene asked to see it and started looking over it carefully.

Eugene: "There's a cell phone # inside the cd. It's not the same # that I know of for Bada."
(to Bada) "Did you change your #?"

MC Yoo Jae-suk quickly commented "[She] must have 2 phone numbers - one for guys to call her, and another for her friends to call her."

question that co-MC Kim Won-hui asked LMK about whether or not 'Eugene's face has ever appeared in your dream while sleeping' to which LMK replies "Of course."

it also talks about the triangle b/t him, Eugene, and Bada created during the taping of the "Come to play" episode.

Bada is quoted saying that she "started watching RRLY b/c of Eugene" but "b/c she's also a woman she started watching more b/c of LMK rather than Eugene." And "that's how she became a fan."

translations courtesy of n5y17cgirl

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how long was this show? i think i only recorded until 11:30hopefully that was enough i havent had the chance to watch it yet.... but this is really interesting...
Iwould definitely download this when i get home later
thanx for posting this here!!!!
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