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Hi Jalal, *I* know that the kms don't matter, but since I don't have mechanical knowledge myself, I would like to be able to point out the different kms that people experienced, to people like Kerry's service manager. My exxy probably is fine since most of the time my driving has been easy cruising rather than flat out. However, I've had 4 warranty issues, plus the aircon blower fan has just gone, so I don't have that confidence that nothing else will go wrong.

Hi Dave, peace of mind is what I am aiming at too, by getting them checked. I could probably hang on til I get back to Qld, but that's going to be way into July and I'd rather not wait that long, but at the rate I'm going that is what will probably happen. If the engine went, there is no way on earth I'd be able to afford to replace it, I'd have to sell the vehicle for what I could get and hopefully at least be able to afford something with 4 wheels that was drivable.


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Hi we are from Ontario Canada and just recently purchased a 2005 Xtrail SE. I think we may be in trouble here and are looking for any feedback as to how to handle the situation.

About 2 weeks ago we started noticing that the engine was bogging as if we had some bad gas. We added some gas line antifreeze and refilled the tank and the problem went away. Then about 5 days ago we had major problems: the engine light came on and the vehicle began stalling and bogging down very badly. My son checked the spark plugs thinking maybe a faulty plug and noticed one of the spark plugs had lost it's gap. He re-gapped the plug and thus far we have had no further difficulty. The engine light did go off after this. What should we be looking for and should we get it into the dealer???? We have about 1 year left on the warranty or approximately 20,000 kms. Will we have difficulty having this issue looked at and worked on under warranty??? How can we ensure that they take our concerns seriously? Is there a Canadian or North Amercan Site which we should refer to?

The vehicle does make a little bit of engine noise when revs hit about 1500. Any guidance would be very much appreciated.

I should add that it is a 5 speed manual gas 2.5 litre engine.

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Hi Tom,

The recall for the butterfly screws actually originated in America for the Sentra and Altima models which have exactly the same engine as the T30 xtrail (QR25DE).

You can advise your dealer that you are suspecting that you have exactly the same defect and the symptoms are similar and refer them to the Nissan recall campaign NTB05-058b which states the following:

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2004 NISSAN SENTRA, 2004-2005 ALTIMA; VOLUNTARY SERVICE CAMPAIGN QR25DE POWER VALVE
Nissan has determined that on some 2004 model year Sentra and 2004-2005 model year Altima vehicles equipped with the 2.5 liter engine there is a possibility that power valve screws located in the intake manifold may become loose. If this occurs the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) may illuminate and unstable engine idling or power loss may occur.



Ask them to inspect the lower intake butterfly screws to make sure they're all still there.

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It struck me when reading this thread that my XTrail is the same age as Julies and as I have just had my 70,000 Km service it would pay me to get my butterfly screws checked and loctited. Is this a straight forward procedure I could do myself and is it necessary. Does the conditions you drive in affect this problem and how common is it?

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Hi Dave,

To answer your questions.

This preventative procedure is a MUST for every T30 xtrail owner! It's a lengthy procedure but not a hard one if you're confident enough and have time on your hands. It has been detailed in the previous pages of this thread if you wanna check it out. Otherwise just pay a mechanic or Nissan to have it done for you.

The risk of this problem materializing becomes greater when the car is driven in higher RPM ranges most of the time (i.e. lead foot like myself or someone that is towing)

As to how common it is, apparently Nissan are of an opinion that is not common enough to warrant an official recall, but that's their view. I have seen many cases reported elsewhere outside of this forum where owners were forced to fork-out big bucks for a new engine for no fault of their own!

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I figured it would be a good idea to get a dealer to look at the butterfly screws, then at least it is on Nissans record if they are in fact loose - am I correct?

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Yes Julie, especially if you're still under the factory warranty or the extended factory warranty.

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 emoticon Thanks Jalal

Will get straight onto it and get our dealers to fix it.



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Hi everyone, I have read with interest the "loose intake butterfly screws" postings and wonder at what point in time did Nissan realize this problem and did they take steps to rectify it in later models.... My "pride & joy" is a 2007 model series 2 Ti and I'm wondering if I should take steps to have mine checked out ??....... Al emoticon

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Al,

We have no confirmed reports of Nissan ever rectifying this problem apart from a statement saying that Nissan have used new type of butterfly screws with washers from 2006 as stated HERE

It is upto you to believe this claim or take steps to have these screws checked-out and loctited for added peace of mind.

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